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A year later this Palestinian writer was killed

+972 MagazineNewsletterIn Umm al-Khair, the occupation is damning us to multigenerational traumaI saw the first bulldozers arrive in my village 17 years ago. Now, after the most brutal weeks in our history, my son will carry similarly painful memories.By Awdah Hathaleen July 22, 2024The demolition forces enter the village. All the children run to their mothers, who scramble to salvage whatever they can from their homes before it’s too late. Everyone watches on anxiously to see who will be made homeless today. The bulldozers gather in the center of the village and then stop. Soldiers disembark. The villagers look each other in the eye, searching for words of comfort, but there are none. Our children ask us why this is happening, but we have no answers.This was the scene on June 26 in my village of Umm al-Khair in the occupied West Bank, when Israeli forces demolished 11 homes, leaving families without shelter in the heat of summer. The demolitions were just the beginning of what became one of the most violent weeks in the history of our small agricultural community: we have since faced a sharp escalation in settler violence, with subsequent attacks seeing settlers shoot live ammunition in the village and destroy our water system during a severe heat wave.On the morning of the demolitions, we got word that officials from the Israeli Civil Administration — which administers the lives of Palestinians under occupation — were gathered on the highway near our village together with Border Police officers and demolition equipment. We have become accustomed to experiencing major demolition operations here in the South Hebron Hills, under the pretext that the structures were built without permits. Yet we have no other choice: Israel routinely denies permits to Palestinians in Area C of the West Bank as a method to expel us from our lands.Since October 7, the situation in Umm Al-Khair has been even more difficult than usual. And that morning, we quickly realized that we were about to witness another major demolition operation. My cousin, Eid al-Hathaleen, an artist and community leader, was one of the villagers whose world was turned upside down. “As activists who regularly document demolitions, we immediately started monitoring what was happening,” he said. “After a while, a military convoy accompanied by three bulldozers moved toward our village, closed off all the entrances, and barred the media and activists from entering.”Upon entering the village, the demolition forces went straight to one of the oldest tents in Umm al-Khair: the tent of the martyr Suleiman al-Hathaleen, a monumental figure who led the community for years and was crushed to death two years ago by an Israeli police truck that raided the village. The soldiers formed a line to prevent residents from reaching the tent before bulldozing it to the ground. In our state of shock, we thought maybe that would be the only tent demolished that day. Instead, the occupation forces continued to the main electricity room in our village, to Eid’s home, and then to one of the largest families in Umm al-Khair to destroy all of their homes and everything they owned.In total, 10 houses were demolished that morning, along with the village council tent and the solar electricity room. Thirty-eight residents are now homeless — including my sister, whose house was destroyed along with all her possessions. What was particularly shocking was that these were among the oldest homes in the village, with some having received demolition orders all the way back in 2008. Now we are worried about every single house here in Umm al-Khair.During a demolition, there is the immediate pain and horror of losing your home. But perhaps the hardest moment is the first night without it. In the hours after the demolition, you will be surrounded by your friends from the community and those who have come from elsewhere to offer solidarity. But at the end of that evening, all of them will go back to their homes — while you and your family are left to sleep outside among the rubble of your memories.“I never imagined sleeping in the open that night,” Eid said. “I cannot describe that situation — how much I wanted to express what was inside me, and what my family, who are now homeless, was facing. How can I reduce their fear and anxiety, their feeling of having no safe place?”For my sister, it took a few days to begin to process the tragedy. “During the nights, we usually make dinner for everyone and sit together,” she told me. “Then my children go to hang out with their friends in the community, the young ones go to sleep, and we plan for the following morning. But in one moment, we found ourselves in an unsteady tent which cannot protect us from anything. So in these moments, we understood what had actually happened to us.”Here in Umm al-Khair, the threat of home demolitions has hovered over every resident since we first received demolition orders 17 years ago. When I was young, my parents did everything to try to shield my siblings and I from this reality, but there are some memories that stuck with me. I was only 13 years old during the first demolitions in 2007, but I still remember that day so clearly: I walked to school with two of my cousins, then sat at my desk which was next to the window, giving me a clear view of the village. Suddenly, we started to see bulldozers and people moving around; we tried to go out, but the teachers wouldn’t let us.I remember my mother’s tears when I arrived back in the village, the women shouting, and the anger in the men’s faces. I remember the activists who stood with us, the soldiers and Border Police officers throwing tear gas, and the men being arrested. It’s a painful memory, yet I can’t help but remember.Now a parent myself, I’ve tried to shield my 4-year-old son from this harsh reality as much as possible, so that he will not have to carry the same memories that I did. But sometimes, no matter how good a father you are, there are things you cannot control. And the past weeks have been some of the worst we’ve ever experienced.In the afternoon of July 1, five days after the demolitions, a group of settlers from the illegal Israeli outpost of Havat Shorashim entered our village where a group of elderly women were feeding their sheep. They came into the home of my mother, the village elder Hajja Khadra al-Hathaleen, demanding that she make them coffee. When the women told the settlers to leave, one of them began shooting live fire into the air, beating the women with sticks, and spraying pepper spray in their eyes. In a panic, we called for the police and army to come, not knowing how else to protect our families from the settlers. But when the army arrived, instead of making the settlers leave our land, they started to shout at the village residents and push us out of our homes. In total, six residents were wounded by the settlers: four women, a 5-year-old girl, and a 17-year-old boy. We called ambulances to take the wounded to the hospital, but when they reached the village, the settlers blocked the road, delaying the injured from getting urgent medical treatment.  My son witnessed these attacks — he was playing in the area where the settlers arrived — and has been deeply affected by them. Understandably, he wants to know what is happening, and why. “Every time a settler sees me, will they use pepper spray?” he now asks. “Why did grandma go to the hospital?” He even knows some of the settlers by name. Sometimes I tell him that they went to jail; I’m lying, but I want to make him feel safe. But he still sees his grandmothers, his cousins, and his aunts collapsing on the ground in front of him. It’s a tough memory, and I know that it will stick with him. Since the attacks, my son has started stuttering — an entirely new symptom, and one that terrifies me. The doctor told us that the best treatment for stuttering is a safe environment. But this is what we cannot guarantee for our children: in Umm al-Khair, no one is in a safe place. The following day, the same settlers returned to the village; after pitching a tent in my neighbor’s yard, over 20 of them gathered to say the Jewish evening prayers together. The next morning, while grazing their sheep in our private agricultural lands, they severed the pipe that is Umm al-Khair’s only connection to running water. Amid all of this injustice, we often feel forgotten, lost, or hopeless. Sometimes we wonder: why do Israelis see us as terrorists and enemies? Why is the world not acting to achieve justice for Palestinians? But most of the time, we feel tired. The attacks, the raids, the demolitions: we think about them all the time. I always say that I wish fate hadn’t brought us to this point. But now we are stuck here; there’s no way to leave."Awdah Hathaleen is an activist and collective member of Umm al-Khair in the South Hebron Hills. He is an English teacher in his village, having studied English teaching at Hebron University.Hamdan Ballal Al-Huraini also contributed to this article.https://www.972mag.com/umm-al-khair-multigenerational-trauma/------------------See the settlers and their IDF "protectors":-https://static.972mag.com/www/uploads/2024/07/July-2-Shimon-and-army-and-sheep-3-1280x720.jpg------------------And now:-"On 28 July this year [2025], Yinon Levi [a radical Zionist settler] fired a bullet that killed Odeh [Awdah] Hathaleen, a Palestinian activist and journalist, during a disturbance in the West Bank village of Umm al-Khair. Levi pleaded self-defence and was released after three days of house arrest.""His [Awdah's] brother, Khalil, told me the dead man was holding his five-year-old son, Watan, and filming the violent scenes on his phone when he was killed."

David Ainsworth ● 8d10 Comments ● 2d

"Double tap" 15 minutes later

"Israel bombed the main hospital in southern Gaza on Monday and then struck the same spot again as rescuers and journalists rushed to help the wounded, killing at least 20 people including five journalists, health officials said.The first strike hit the top floor of a building at the Nasser hospital, killing the Reuters journalist Hussam al-Masri and others. Journalists and rescuers then rushed to the scene to help the wounded, when a second bomb struck the same spot 15 minutes later.A live video from AlGhad TV captured the moments of their killings, showing civil defence workers wearing bright orange vests and journalists raising their hands to shield themselves seconds before the second bomb kills them. A second video showed the aftermath of the bombings, with the bodies of the first responders and journalists lying on top of one another, bloody and covered in dust.The “double tap” strike and killing of journalists prompted a wave of international condemnation, including from the UK foreign secretary, David Lammy. “Horrified by Israel’s attack on Nasser hospital. Civilians, healthcare workers and journalists must be protected. We need an immediate ceasefire,” Lammy wrote on X.The US president, Donald Trump, told reporters “I’m not happy about it” when asked about the attack, while the French president, Emmanuel Macron, described it as “intolerable”." (Gdn 25/8/25)https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/25/journalists-among-people-killed-by-israeli-strike-on-gaza-hospital-----------------------"In a statement, the Israeli military said its troops on Monday "carried out a strike in the area of Nasser Hospital in Khan Yunis"."The Chief of the General Staff instructed to conduct an initial inquiry as soon as possible," it said, adding it "regrets any harm to uninvolved individuals and does not target journalists as such".""uninvolved individuals" and "journalists as such". "initial inquiry as soon as possible".Of course.https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/four-journalists-among-15-killed-101221836.html

David Ainsworth ● 9d2 Comments ● 3d

Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?

Jews and many living in or are associated with Israel are the race that suffered the greatest genocide in modern times.For those that might have forgotten, some 6,000,000 were murdered on an industrial scale in Nazi Germany in WWII.This naturally has made them at least wary of how they are considered and treated in the West and the Middle East.Palestinians in their conflict with Israel are not experiencing such a fate.It is claimed that Israel has killed 52,000 Palestinians in Gaza.These are figures put out by the 'Gazan Health Ministry' (unelected).This is known to be run by Hamas  which itself murdered and sexually assaulted numerous women, children and the elderly in October 2023 and still hold many hostages as well as the corpses of those it murdered.It does not distinguish between civilian deaths and those of its fighting forces that imbed themselves amongst the general Populus.And of course Hamas is attempting to enact its Charter Declaration which calls for the annihilation of the state of Israel and its Jewish citizens.But we should not forget there have been and still are many conflicts raging around the world that have resulted in many deaths and claims of genocide.They received and get little attention by the anti-Israel bien pensants and fellow travellers.All the focus is on Israel.For example note the deaths resulting from the following -2023 Masalit, West Darfur Sudan - 15,000 deaths2020 Tigray Ethiopia 162,000 deaths2016 Rohingya, Myanmar - 9,000 deaths2016 China - Uyghur birth rate drops 24% because of genocidal persecution2014 Ukraine - 12,000 deaths by Russians2014 Iraq Turkman 3,500 deaths (by ISIS)2014 Iraq/Syria (Yazidis) - 2,100 deaths (by ISIS)2003 Darfur, Sudan - 98,000 deaths2002 North Kivu, DR Congo - 60,000 deaths1996 Kivu, Zaire - 200,000 deaths (Hutus)1994 Rwanda - 491,000 deaths (Tutsis)1992 Bosnia - 31,000 deaths (by Serbs)All inter-tribal as is the conflict initiated by Hamas against Israel.Cut Israel some slack.

John Hawkes ● 102d108 Comments ● 4d

All good friends and jolly good company

UK still sharing intelligence with Israel as surveillance flights over Gaza continueBy Imran MullaNiddle East Eye. Published date: 6 August 2025 09:43 BST | Last update: 2 weeks 5 days agoDespite escalating diplomatic tensions between the two countries, the UK has continued to assist Israel militarily. On Tuesday, government sources confirmed that Britain continues to fly spy planes over Gaza and share intelligence with Israel, according to The Times.For months, British politicians have questioned the government about the role played by a Royal Air Force base on the island of Cyprus, RAF Akrotiri, just a 40-minute flight from Tel Aviv.From there, RAF aircraft have conducted hundreds of surveillance flights over Gaza throughout Israel's war on the besieged enclave.In response to questions about these flights, the UK's Ministry of Defence (MoD) has repeatedly insisted it is in support of "hostage rescue".The MoD confirmed this week that surveillance flights were "still ongoing" over Gaza, The Times reported.According to flight tracking data, Shadow R1s, RAF specialist planes, have not flown over Gaza in the past month. The MoD has refused to disclose which aircraft are currently being deployed over Gaza. 'A bird's-eye view of the genocide'A source with knowledge of British surveillance capabilities in the Middle East told MEE earlier this year that the surveillance flights give Britain "a bird's-eye view of the genocide".The source noted that the UK, a partner in the Five Eyes intelligence alliance that also includes the US, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, is the "number one gatherer of intelligence" in the Middle East."Britain knows exactly what is happening because of those flights. They have a better view than any journalist."Former Major General Charlie Herbert, who served in the British Army for 35 years, told The Times: “It’s all good and proper saying they are handing over intelligence for the purposes for locating hostages, but in reality that intelligence is just as likely to be used [to target] Hamas and others.”The MoD said last year that it "would consider any formal request from the International Criminal Court to provide information relating to investigations into war crimes".There is significant secrecy surrounding much of what the RAF Akrotiri airbase in Cyprus is used for.Earlier this year, MEE reported that the UK government blocked Labour MP Kim Johnson from asking about Israeli bombers using the Cyprus airbase.Diplomatic ties between the UK and Israel have frayed in the past few months, culminating in the British government's announcement last week that it intends to recognise Palestinian statehood in September.Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office responded by saying on X: "Starmer rewards Hamas's monstrous terrorism & punishes its victims. A jihadist state on Israel's border TODAY will threaten Britain TOMORROW."But despite the diplomatic fireworks, questions and scrutiny over the exact nature of Britain's military cooperation with Israel are sure to continue."

David Ainsworth ● 9d4 Comments ● 8d

To the victors the spoils?

Mr Rose replies yesterday to my statement ‘The Zionists returned as colonists, not as equals’.:-"Not true. The early Zionists in the nineteenth century purchased land from Turkish landowners and lived under Turkish rule just like the Arabs. After 1917 Jewish immigrants had to seek permission from the British authorities. They had no more privileges than their Arab neighbours."He must have forgotten:-"Herbert Louis Samuel, 1st Viscount Samuel (6 November 1870 – 5 February 1963) was a British Liberal politician who was the party leader from 1931 to 1935.He was the first nominally-practising Jew to serve as a Cabinet minister and to become the leader of a major British political party. Samuel had promoted Zionism within the British Cabinet, beginning with his 1915 memorandum entitled The Future of Palestine. In 1920 he was appointed as the first High Commissioner for Palestine, in charge of the administration of the territory."One month after Britain's declaration of war on the Ottoman Empire in November 1914, Samuel met Chaim Weizmann, who was to become the President of the World Zionist Organization and later the first President of Israel. According to Weizmann's memoirs, Samuel was already an avid believer in Zionism and believed that Weizmann's demands were too modest. Samuel did not want to enter into a detailed discussion of his plans but mentioned that "the Jews would have to build railways, harbours, a university, a network of schools, etc", as well as potentially a Temple in "modernised form".In January 1915, Samuel circulated a memorandum, The Future of Palestine, to his cabinet colleagues, suggesting that Britain should conquer Palestine in order to protect the Suez Canal against foreign powers, and for Palestine to become a home for the Jewish people. The memorandum stated, "I am assured that the solution of the problem of Palestine which would be much the most welcome to the leaders and supporters of the Zionist movement throughout the world would be the annexation of the country to the British Empire". In March 1915, Samuel replaced the January 1915 draft version with the final version of his memorandum, toned down from the earlier draft, explicitly ruling out any idea of immediately establishing a Jewish state and emphasizing that non-Jews must receive equal treatment under any scheme.Appointment as High CommissionerIn 1917, Britain occupied Palestine (then part of the Ottoman Empire) during the course of the First World War. Samuel lost his seat in the election of 1918 and became a candidate to represent British interests in the territory.He was appointed to the position of High Commissioner in 1920, before the Council of the League of Nations approved a British mandate for Palestine. Nonetheless, the military government withdrew to Cairo in preparation for the expected British Mandate, which was finally granted two years later by the League of Nations. He served as High Commissioner until 1925. Samuel was the first Jew to govern the historic Land of Israel in 2000 years.He recognised Hebrew as one of the three official languages of the territory. He was appointed Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire (GBE) on 11 June 1920.Samuel's appointment to High Commissioner for Palestine was controversial. While the Zionists welcomed the appointment of a Zionist Jew to the post, the military government, headed by Edmund Allenby and Louis Bols, called Samuel's appointment "highly dangerous".Technically, Allenby noted, the appointment was illegal, as a civil administration that would compel the inhabitants of an occupied country to express their allegiance to it before a formal peace treaty (with the Ottoman Empire) was signed violated both military law and the Hague Convention. Bols said the news was received with "consternation, despondency and exasperation" by the Muslims and Christians. Allenby said that the Arabs would see it "as handing country over at once to a permanent Zionist Administration" and predicted massive violence.Lord Curzon read the last message to Samuel and asked him to reconsider accepting the post. Samuel took advice from a delegation in London representing the Zionists, who told him that the "alarmist" reports were not justified. The Muslim-Christian Association had sent a telegram to Bols:Sir Herbert Samuel regarded as a Zionist leader, and his appointment as first step in formation of Zionist national home in the midst of Arab people contrary to their wishes. Inhabitants cannot recognise him, and Muslim-Christian Society cannot accept responsibility for riots or other disturbances of peace.The wisdom of appointing Samuel was debated in the House of Lords a day before he arrived in Palestine. Lord Curzon said that no "disparaging" remarks had been made during the debate but that "very grave doubts have been expressed as to the wisdom of sending a Jewish Administrator to the country at this moment".Questions in the House of Commons of the period also show much concern about the choice of Samuel: "what action has been taken to placate the Arab population... and thereby put an end to racial tension". Three months after his arrival, The Morning Post commented: "Sir Herbert Samuel's appointment as High Commissioner was regarded by everyone, except Jews, as a serious mistake."Tenure.As High Commissioner, Samuel attempted to mediate between Zionist and Arab interests, acting to slow Jewish immigration and win the confidence of the Arab population. He hoped to gain Arab participation in mandate affairs and to guard their civil and economic rights, but refused them any authority that could be used to stop Jewish immigration and land purchase. According to Wasserstein his policy was "subtly designed to reconcile Arabs to the... pro-Zionist policy" of the British.Islamic custom at the time was that the chief Islamic spiritual leader, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, was to be chosen by the temporal ruler, the Ottoman Sultan in Constantinople, from a group of clerics nominated by the indigenous clerics. After the British conquered Palestine, Samuel chose Haj Amin al Husseini, who later proved a thorn in the side of the British administration in Palestine. At the same time, he enjoyed the respect of the Jewish community, and he was honoured by being called to the Torah at the Hurva synagogue in the Old City of Jerusalem."The Palestine population at this time was:1922 Total population of Palestine  752,000Jewish population of Palestine  84,000Christian population of Palestine  71,000Muslim population of Palestine  589,000https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Samuel,_1st_Viscount_Samuel

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VJ Day and how our split society came about.

"How the second world war shaped the sons of its soldiers" The Spectator.https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-the-second-world-war-shaped-the-sons-of-its-soldiers/I am at 80, probably one of the oldest posters on this Forum.And many would say I am sure, one of the most reactionary.But then I was born, brought up and formed in different times and under different circumstances.And every thing in this article rings a loud bell for me.I was 'shaped' as described above.My father fought for four years against the Japanese in Malaysia.And for years after his uniform truly did hang at the back of his wardrobe.(Well the jacket did but not the trousers leading to my bad dreams as a child as to what he would wear if called up again !)And we did play 'England vs Germany' war games in the street and were proud that we were victorious in reality.The nett of this might well be that I was inculcated with patriotism and love of country.And looked back at pride on what he and his comrades did to defend us from fascist tyranny in Europe and the Far East.A country that was homogeneous in race and culture and belief and proud of its history.Now it is 'multi-racial 'and 'multi cultural'.Is this for the better ?Divided between those that for generations have sided with its history and culture and those, often newcomers born elsewhere, that criticise it.And of course our education system which often derides and downplays our beliefs, culture and achievements so that younger generations, if they know anything at all of our recent past, are often taught to mock it and find it ridiculous. Is that for the good ?A petty example. Birmingham Council (the one that never collects household waste because of strikes by bin men) tries to stop the flying of Union Jack Flags but allows Palestinian flags to fly in Muslim areas."Fury as Labour-run council tears down 'dangerous' St George's and Union Jack flags from city streets (but Palestine flags are allowed in 'Muslim areas'.)" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15003113/Fury-Labour-run-council-tears-dangerous-St-Georges-Union-Jack-flags.htmlFor those that can be bothered to read it, this Spectator article above explains some of this.

John Hawkes ● 18d71 Comments ● 9d

Ambulances to Ukraine

As some of you will remember I volunteered two years ago to drive an aid-filled ambulance to Ukraine for a remarkable undertaking known as Medical Life Lines Ukraine (MLLU).  Several of you made very generous donations at that time and in total I raised over £18,000 at the time.MLLU was set up and is being run by a small group of private citizens in Wimbledon and Putney.  They have done heroic work and have raised sufficient funds since the invasion began to deliver over 100 ambulances, medical equipment and other civilian rescue vehicles to the Ministry of Health in Lviv.  On two occasions convoys also took supplies of dog food for the rescue dogs trained to search for survivors in ruined buildings.  Photos of the very happy dogs and their handlers can be seen on the MLLU website https://www.medicallifelines.org.uk Now, I have volunteered to drive again and will be departing from Putney early on Sunday 7th September to join the other ambulances at Folkestone. From there the convoy will head across the Channel on the Euroshuttle (they transport us for free) before heading on to Lviv.Two years ago I did not think the humanitarian aid being delivered by MLLU would still be as vitally needed today as it was back then.  Tragically it looks like their work will continue to be needed for years to come given the continuing onslaught by Russian missiles and drones.  Ukraine remains a war zone and the regular air raid sirens remind any visitor that even Lviv, in the far west of the country, has been attacked.I have undertaken to raise at least an additional £7,000 to cover part of the cost of another ambulance in a future convoy and I am hoping that the spirit of generosity shown two years ago still lives on.  I would be truly grateful if you feel able to offer your support, some for a second time of course, but others for the first time.The link to my funding page is as follows https://www.justgiving.com/page/jonathan-callaway-1 where you will see I have almost reached my initial target.  I hope to raise far more of course and I can assure you every penny gets spent on humanitarian equipment.  The costs of driving the ambulances to Ukraine, about 1,200 miles, are covered by the volunteer drivers, as are their return travel costs.Donations are UK gift aid compliant as they are routed through our partner British-Ukrainian Aid, a registered UK charity.Do please also share this as widely as possible with friends and contacts so I can raise as much as I possibly can for MLLU.With many thanks in advanceJonathan

Jonathan Callaway ● 56d19 Comments ● 9d

You REALLY Couldn't Make This Up !!!

A Nigerian man who was jailed for four years for violence has won a legal battle against deportation on the basis of being gay, despite having been married to a woman and fathering a child by another.Nigerian father who was denied asylum three times is allowed to stay in Britain - after belatedly claiming he's gayThe man, who has been granted anonymity, first arrived in the UK in 1983 but overstayed and left nine years later.He returned in 1996 and made several failed asylum bids, including on the basis of political opinion and later through marriage to a Portuguese woman.He has a son from a relationship with another woman, but claimed he was 'in denial' about his sexuality at the time.The 61-year-old has a conviction for violent disorder and was jailed for four years in 2003. A deportation order was issued in 2006.But between 2010 and 2013, he said he was in a gay relationship and argued he would face persecution if removed to Nigeria, where his family said he was 'bringing the family name into ridicule and shame and that they would not hesitate to inform the security services of such practice.'The Home Office repeatedly rejected his claims, with one immigration judge describing him as not credible and dismissing evidence from witnesses, one of whom said he suspected he was gay 'because of the amount of time he spent in the bathroom and because he had found gay pornographic material'.Despite this, he has now been granted the right to remain on human rights grounds.Immigration judges have now declared: 'We consider that his account should not be rejected solely because of his immigration history or because he did not rely on his sexual orientation to remain in the UK prior to 2015.'They found him 'plausible.'Upper Tribunal judge Gemma Loughran said: 'We are satisfied to the lower standard that he is gay.'https://mol.im/a/15024237This incompetent judge should be dismissed and this criminal should be deported.   Immediately!

Sue Hammond ● 12d3 Comments ● 12d