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UK boycott of Israeli settlements

Today Ed Miliband is expected to announce a 'reset' in Britain's relations with Israel with a boycott of trade with settlements on the West Bank. The purpose is to promote the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on the West Bank as part of a two state solution to the conflict.Can such a policy be effectively implemented? The answer is, with difficulty. While British firms might be banned from selling to the settlements, in practice it is impossible to distinguish between goods  coming from the West Bank from those produced in Israel.Will this policy deter Israel from further expansion into the West Bank? Absolutely not. The settlements will simply find other suppliers and other markets. Will it deter settler violence? Hardly. The religious fanatics who attack Palestinian villages will probably be emboldened, believing that the whole world is against the Jewish people.Will there be consequences for Britain as a result of this policy? Almost certainly. Israel will retaliate, possibly by banning imports of British goods or restricting the sale of pharmaceuticals to Britain or by refusing to cooperate with the security services on Islamist threats to Britain. There will also be consequences for Britain's trade with America as the Trump administration strongly opposes such action.Then why do it? And why do it now given that there will shortly be an election in Israel at which Netanyahu might be lose power? The answer is that Labour are essentially a performative party who have no grasp of practical policies but simply engage in virtue signalling, advertising their commitment to various ideals. And I would not exclude from their motives a wish to outflank the Greens, who are likely to attract the vote of those who support the Palestinian cause.Then

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Steven'Then why do it? And why do it now given that there will shortly be an election in Israel at which Netanyahu might be lose power? The answer is that Labour are essentially a performative party who have no grasp of practical policies but simply engage in virtue signalling, advertising their commitment to various ideals. And I would not exclude from their motives a wish to outflank the Greens, who are likely to attract the vote of those who support the Palestinian cause.'I am sure this is the true motivation for Burnham and Miliband.The UK has a long established Jewish population that makes a great contribution to our society.And a smaller and more recently arrived Islamic one, mainly made up of Pakistani immigrants.Very few I would think Palestinian immigrants and so I question why we show such concern and sympathy with their plight especially with the murder and havoc they have inflicted in Britain over recent decades and are even recently shown to be perpetrating antisemitic attacks such that Jews are having to fund their own protective street forces.Furthermore the actions of Palestinians in the Middle East have given no reason for us showing them sympathy or support. We do not have a Palestinian dog in the Middle East conflict so why do lefties get so worked up about it.In the end we have to choose to support a western orientated society like ours which is Israel or a backward misogynistic  Islamic one which is Palestine.And let's not forget what happened in October 2023.Finally on a pragmatic level, cutting back on trade with Israel will hit us harder than them for we will lose access to their biomed and technology products we are dependent upon and which they easily can sell elsewhere.Can't buy them from Palestine though they do export dates I believe.But most important we will lose intelligence information from Israeli security sources regarding attacks in the UK from Islamists, especially Iranians.A warning recently made by the head of MI5.All this self inflicted damage to make puffed up 'lil Ed Miliband and Burnham feel self-righteously good about themselves.And of course to garner the Islamic votes in their constituencies.

John Hawkes ● 37d

Mike Huckabee US Ambassador to Israel has said (re boycotting of certain Israeli products) -"Are they (Burnham and Miliband) willing also to do great damage to any Brits who are doing business in a number of states in the US.'I don't know what all of the national sanctions or repercussions or retaliations will be from the US, hasn't been announced yet.They realized that this law would have bankrupted their company. Florida has made it clear. Any company — or nation — that boycotts Israel is boycotted by Florida.' Mr Huckabee said: 'I feel like that it's a discrimination against the Israeli government, it's discrimination against the Jewish people and I don't understand the rationale of it.'He added: 'I don't know if they have thought through, it's like throwing a stone and not having an idea of where it's going to land.'And I realise, look, the UK is a sovereign country, they can do what they want, but so is the US.'He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme there would be 'implications' for Britain.'For example, 25 per cent of pharmaceuticals that are used in the UK are made in Israel. Are they willing to give those up? It looks like they are.'Are they willing also to do great damage to any Brits who are doing business in a number of states in the US.'I don't know what all of the national sanctions or repercussions or retaliations will be from the US, hasn't been announced yet.'But I do know that there are a number of states. Let me mention one, one of the largest US states, Florida, that has a law that if this action is taken, then Brits will not be able to do business with any company or business in Florida.'Note that in 2023 a MOU was agreed between Florida and the UK builds on the strong existing relationship between the UK and Florida and sets out mutual goals and activities to strengthen our economic ties.It prioritises cooperation in the space, fintech, life sciences, supply chains, transport, infrastructure, agricultural biotechnology sectors, legal services and lawtech. It also prioritises other emerging and innovative sectors, such as artificial intelligence and semiconductors.It provides a framework to address trade barriers, increase investment, and enhance business networks.'Of course this will all be lost on Burnham and seen as irrelevant to Miliband because they would expect setting up a No 10 in Manchester will generate compensating economic growth and anyway they will be too busy looking to find the money to nationalise bringing certain utilities and services alongside Thames Water.Economic illiterates.

John Hawkes ● 37d

Hooray !Support for Israel from the Conservatives and a trenchant denouncment of the antisemitism in the Labour Party.The Guardian - "Badenoch claims Labour's plan to ban trade with illegal West Bank settlements driven by antisemitismKemi Badenoch has written an uncompromising attack on the government’s decision to ban trade with illegal Israeli settlements on the West Bank. It is in the Jewish Chronicle and – echoing the argument made by Mike Huckabee (see 9.52am), but with slightly less inflammatory language – she accuses Labour of being antisemitic.Here are some of her arguments.Badenoch accuses Labour of contributing to the “normalisation of antisemitism” – and suggests that is happening as much under Andy Burnham as it did under Jeremy Corbyn.For any observer of British politics, the normalisation of antisemitism has been one of the most disturbing trends in recent years. Gone are the days when antisemitism was pushed underground or confined to only the extremist fringes of our national debate …For years, Labour has insisted that the party has changed since Jeremy Corbyn. They tell Britain’s Jewish community that the poison which flourished under his leadership has been confronted. They hold meetings, issue statements, and promise that antisemitism will never again be tolerated.Yet their actions tell a different story.What has been revealed this week beyond any doubt is that while Corbyn may have lost the Labour leadership, he very much did win the argument inside the party.For all Labour claim to have rooted out antisemitism internally, the degree of anti-Israel hatred means that Labour’s approach to many of these issues is Corbyn in all but name.Corbyn strongly denies being antisemitic, insisting that criticism of Israel is not the same as antisemitism, and Keir Starmer and Burnham have also condemned antisemitism very strongly.Badenoch claimed that today’s decision shows that Burnham’s government is “throwing British interests under the bus ***to win back Islamist and far left activist votes”. She said the decision was driven entirely by internal Labour party concerns***.Labour’s obsession with Israel is rooted in UK politics. It’s got less to do with peace in the Middle East, and more to do with trying to keep the peace in the Labour party.She claimed the ban being announced today would encourage antisemitism in Britain.Any decision to ban trade with Israeli settlements in the West Bank will become a de facto boycott on Israel given the difficulty any British business will face separating “legitimate” and “illegitimate” activities. It will inflame protests and violence against businesses that trade with Israel.This matters because antisemitism does not exist in a vacuum.The government itself has acknowledged that hatred of Israel has been at the heart of some of the antisemitism we have witnessed since October 7. Ministers therefore cannot simultaneously recognise that connection and behave as though the relentless demonisation and singling out of Israel has no effect on the atmosphere in Britain.She said the trade ban decision would put British citizens at risk because it could lead to Israel reducing security cooperation.Iranian-directed activity has threatened people on British soil. Israel confronts the same networks and the same ideology that threaten us. British citizens are alive today thanks to Israeli intelligence.Picking unnecessary fights with a country that helps us combat terrorism is an act of national self-harm'.Well said !

John Hawkes ● 37d

Mr Brigo'As you can never be bothered to publish your sources I have located it for you'And I have read it.'PSR findings point to a Palestinian political landscape in transition. Hamas has lost substantial public support, while Marwan Barghouti emerges as the strongest potential presidential candidate and dissatisfaction with the existing leadership remains exceptionally high. At the same time, Palestinians increasingly question whether armed struggle has delivered meaningful results after the devastation of Gaza, contributing to a notable rise in support for negotiations. Yet this shift remains fragile: most Palestinians still oppose Hamas disarmament before full Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, view settlement expansion as undermining the two-state solution, and remain deeply skeptical of both Palestinian and Israeli leadership.5-8 September 2025'I have read it or at least the synopsis of it above.It is a Palestinian propaganda media site.Nothing wrong with that though as what most Palestinians say is to be taken with pinch of salt I doubt all is to believed.If it can be trusted, I am pleased to read  -'PSR findings point to a Palestinian political landscape in transition. Hamas has lost substantial public support'.Good. All they have achieved for the Palestinians is poverty and misery.'dissatisfaction with the existing leadership remains exceptionally high'As one might have expected seeing what the leadership has achieved to their benefit.'Marwan Barghouti emerges as the strongest potential presidential candidate'Hum. A terrorist imprisoned for murder of civilian Jews. Sort of leader any group of people would cry out for.'At the same time, Palestinians increasingly question whether armed struggle has delivered meaningful results after the devastation of Gaza, contributing to a notable rise in support for negotiations.'At last they are coming to their senses. But why would Israel trust the word of terrorists committed to its annihilation ? (Have you read the Hamas Charter yet ?)And who have the Palestinians voted for to conduct negotiations on their behalf?'Yet this shift remains fragile: most Palestinians still oppose Hamas disarmament before full Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip'Why is that unless they still in their heart of hearts want it to attack Israel ?'view settlement expansion as undermining the two-state solution, and remain deeply skeptical of both Palestinian and Israeli leadership.'Understandable.Just as Israelis are very sceptical of Palestinian leadership after October 2023 and rightly so.That being said I personally think Israel should engage more  with a democratically elected Palestinian leader ship.But they should as Theodore Roosevelt wisely said “Speak softly and carry a big stick — you will go far.”

John Hawkes ● 36d

Perhaps the majority of Palestinians aren't terrorist and would just like to get on with their lives in peace? While trying to get to sleep early one Monday morning (I really ought to make my double espresso a decaf these days when I finish a meal out!) I ended up listening to R4's Crossing Continents about getting Gaza back online:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002zrnw?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobileIt mentioned what sounds a great initiative "Gaza Sky Geeks" which sounded an excellent was to get young Gazans earning and involved in the global hi tech economy.https://gazaskygeeks.com/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Sky_GeeksIt seems to have been initially set up with the assistance of Google and has involved Microsoft at some stage. It perhaps provides a ray of hope for young, intelligent, well educated and entrepreneurial Gazans to earn a living while contributing to the global tech world.I doubt whether they're fans of Hamas but probably not fans of Israel while there's discontinuity of fast Internet and electricity, and a block on the devices they need to pursue their careers in software engineering, web site development, AI, etc. ( And I guess Google, Apple et al aren't able to mentor them now.) However, it seems a way forward to rebuild a new Gaza if these youngster are given the opportunity? Perhaps in the future they'll be developing AI and if western tech companies aren't allowed back in to support them, they'll be doing it for the UAE and Saudi, etc - or China and Russia?

Michael Ixer ● 36d

SOURCE - BBC News today"British-Israeli rabbi accuses UK of 'singling out Jewish Israelis"'A British-Israeli rabbi, whose wife and two daughters were killed by Palestinian militants in the West Bank, has criticised the UK’s sanctions on Israeli settlements as "singling out Jewish Israelis".Rabbi Leo Dee, who now lives in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, was born in London. His wife, Lucy, and daughters, Maia and Rina, were shot dead as they drove through the Jordan Valley in 2023.He has written an open letter to the prime minister, accusing the government of "hypocrisy" for imposing sanctions on Israeli settlements while not sanctioning the Palestinian Authority.In his statement to the House of Commons on Tuesday, Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband urged the Palestinian Authority to "accelerate reform" in order "to advance the two-state solution".Rabbi Dee wrote in his letter addressed to Andy Burnham: "You insist that you are not against Israelis. Yet you are prepared to single out Jewish Israelis like me for economic punishment."That is the hypocrisy I find so difficult to accept."He added: "For decades, Palestinian terrorism has killed thousands of innocent Israelis, like my wife and daughters, while the Palestinian Authority has operated a system financially rewarding prisoners and the families of those killed carrying out attacks partially funded by the UK."Yet your moral outrage is directed not at those institutions, but at Jewish businesses in Judea and Samaria."The Palestinian Authority formally abolished its prisoner and "martyrs" payment system in 2025, replacing it with a needs-based welfare scheme.However, Israel and others have alleged that payments to prisoners and families of Palestinians killed while carrying out attacks have continued through alternative mechanisms – a claim the Palestinian Authority disputes'.Good old BBC giving terrorist Palestinians the final word.But of course Burnham and Miliband won't rein in their criticisms because that would alienate Muslims and lose them their votes.

John Hawkes ● 36d

StevenHave you yet to see a list of Israeli goods that Ed Miliband proposes to ban the sale of in the UK.I think we should be told before I commit a faux pas if not an offence next time I go into M&S.And I wonder how our Foreign Secretary and the Labour Party will react to this ?Hamas violence against fellow Palestinians: their true brutish misogynistic nature displayed in October 2023 still prevalent today - but against their own.And note the source is the UN not the Israeli press. "Reports of violence against women in Gaza surge, UN agency finds"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c94gm7dp40y0o'There has been a sharp rise in reports of violence against women and girls in the Gaza Strip, including early and forced marriage, according to a series of recent reports from the UN Population Fund (UNFPA).One report, which analyses data collected by 10 organisations, says, external the protracted crisis in war-torn Gaza has "created conditions in which women and girls face escalating risks of gender-based violence".It also warns that there has been a "severe escalation" in the number of early and forced marriage incidents in the second quarter of this year. Both are considered types of gender-based violence (GBV) by the UN.Another report presenting testimony from 230 women in crowded displacement camps in Gaza City and Khan Younis, external makes for a grim read, describing the violence they have experienced or witnessed.Some readers may find some of the details in this report distressingOne displaced woman in a school-turned-shelter in Gaza highlights how rape victims are often married to their rapists to avoid shame and scandal. "When rape cases are discovered in schools, you find weddings and celebrations at the school the next day," she says.Another woman tells how last year, at the time of famine, "a man married off his 14-year-old daughter in exchange for two bags of flour so he and his [other] children could eat". Six women in different displacement camps shared stories of such exchanges - which would have been unthinkable before the conflict between Israel and Hamas began in 2023.Although data collection to establish actual figures remains tricky, in the second quarter of this year, the UNFPA says the number of reported cases of early and forced marriage had increased by 123% on the first quarter. Early or child marriage involved girls aged 12 to 17."The trends are shocking," says Nestor Owomuhangi, the UNFPA representative to Palestine. He says that the extreme circumstances over the past three years - which have seen tens of thousands of people killed, mass destruction and multiple waves of displacement in Gaza - have broken down social structures, so "everything is eroded... there is no system".

John Hawkes ● 21d

Mr Brigo'"It is pretty much well known that Ireland is the most antisemitic country in Europe."'WRONG - they are miles down the list. But why bother researching before spouting off eh?Whatever your survey shows it is not reflected in the 'felt experience' of many British and Irish Jews.ttps://www.thejc.com/opinion/is-ireland-the-most-antisemitic-country-in-the-west-e5tn40lq'Ireland has a problem with how Jewish people are treated here. We are perceived as being a cold house for Jews, and I’d say that is about right.Today in Washington, Taoiseach Micheál Martin is scheduled to meet representatives of the US Jewish community. After the high jinks of the last few days of his US trip, this is an opportunity for reflection.The meeting, according to the Government, is to “discuss the rise of global anti-Semitism and actions by Ireland to combat anti-Semitism, both at home and internationally”.Anti-Semitism is on the rise across Europe, and Ireland will hold the presidency of the EU in the second half of 2026. We have ground to make up if we are to claim honest broker status on this issue.'Note - '21% is the share of Irish residents harboring antisemitic attitudes'.Well down on Russia I do concede.https://www.statista.com/statistics/1616141/antisemitism-index-score-by-country-in-europe/I cannot find the figure for the UK.However -'UK Antisemitic Incidents Rise 21% During First Half of 2026 as Fears for Jewish Safety GrowAntisemitic incidents across the United Kingdom surged 21 percent during the first half of 2026, reaching the second-highest total ever recorded for the period, according to a report released Wednesday — pointing to an increasingly hostile climate facing Britain’s Jewish community amid rising violence and persistent anti-Jewish hatred.The Community Security Trust (CST), a Jewish charity that monitors antisemitism and provides security for Jewish communities across the country, released preliminary figures for the first half of 2026 showing 1,926 anti-Jewish hate incidents between January and June, up from 1,598 during the same period last year.With an average of 321 antisemitic incidents recorded every month, the latest figures represent nearly double the levels seen before the Hamas-led invasion of and massacre across southern Israel on Oct. 7, 2023.CST reported a sharp escalation in the severity of antisemitic attacks, with physical assaults soaring 82 percent to 135 cases, school-related incidents climbing 59 percent to 178, and antisemitic acts targeting synagogues increasing 31 percent, underscoring growing fears for the safety of Britain’s Jewish community.And note -'The UK government has allocated significant funding to combat antisemitism and enhance community safety. Here are some key funding initiatives:£250 million investment over three years to increase policing in Jewish communities, including over 500 additional officers and £43 million for forces serving areas with significant Jewish populations.£1 million funding to help councils tackle antisemitism, with immediate allocations to Barnet Council due to recent antisemitic incidents.£73.4 million to improve security for faith groups, including a £7 million fund for antisemitism prevention and education.These funds are part of a broader government effort to ensure that Jewish communities feel safe and protected from hate and discrimination.'If Labour says there is a problem with antisemitism, there must be a problem !And Jewish schoolboys are advised not to wear a kippa when going to school in order not to draw attention to them selves and be attacked by Islamic immigrants.And Jewish street patrols have been set up in parts of north London to protect Jews and especially children from being attacked.NOT by 'extreme right wing facists' but by Islamists. And of course recently two British Jews were murdered by Islamists. So put aside your web trawled selective data and admit to the reality of antisemitism.

John Hawkes ● 17d

Ms Bond' Communities are stronger when they are fully inclusive.'It is ironic that Israel has to put up with so much criticism when it is probably the most inclusive and pluralistic country in the Middle East.Perhaps the only one in fact.Though Judaism is the predominate religion people are perfectly entitled to worship Islam, other religions or none.'The 25th Knesset was elected on 1 November 2022 and sworn in on 15 November 2022. It is composed of 120 members (MKs) elected through nationwide proportional representation, with seats allocated to parties surpassing the 3.25% electoral threshold using the Bader–Ofer method The Knesset reflects a broad ideological spectrum, including religious, secular, Jewish, and Arab parties'.Gay rights are firmly established in Israel whereas in neighbouring Islamic states exercising such is a punishable offence, often capital.Economic free enterprise has delivered the most wealthy and innovative economy in the region.Israel is one of the world's biggest producer of biomed and digital technology.Neighbouring Islamic states are moribund as more attention is paid to plotting how to annihilate Israel than is to how they create a better life for their people.Their biggest export is the doner kebab and terrorism.And finally the positive influence of Jews and Judaism on Western popular culture is enormous.Can anyone remind me of the last box office hit movie coming from Iran ?Or hum a popular song written by a Muslim ?In fact is singing allowable ?And as a woman would you prefer the freedom available to you in every respect in Israel or being constrained by the medieval misogyny that is the social norm in Islamic countries.What's not to like about Israel ?You choose.

John Hawkes ● 17d

'The Metropolitan Police is calling on the organisers of a pro-Palestinian student march planned to take place on the third anniversary of the 7 October attacks on Israel to move the event.Deputy Assistant Commissioner James Harman said the force had been unable to identify the organisers behind the group, which calls itself the University of London Coalition.He said that while the march did not meet the strict legal threshold at which police could request the home secretary to ban a protest, many Londoners would be marking "a day of mourning" with vigils to remember those who died.The BBC has contacted the group for comment via social media accounts they appear to be associated with.Harman said around 300 students were expected to march through central London, from King's College London in the Strand on Wednesday, finishing at University College London in Holborn.He said they had demanded an end to what they described as a "genocide in Gaza"."Serious concerns have been expressed about the impact of this march on students and staff, particularly those who are Jewish, the route, and the day it is being held," Harman said.He urged anyone intending to join the protest to "reflect on the impact and distress it will cause on this very significant day, and exercise your right to protest on a different date".Nice, sensitive progressive people.They chose the third anniversary of the attack by Hamas Palestinians on Israeli Jews, murdering and sexually assaulting the elderly, women and children and taking away female body parts as trophies. And today -https://londondaily.com/pro-palestine-march-replaced-by-static-rally-amid-route-controversy'Pro-Palestine March Replaced by Static Rally Amid Route Controversy'Protests planned near London's BBC headquarters face restrictions amidst police concerns over disruptions to nearby synagogue.A high-profile pro-Palestine march originally scheduled to pass through central London has been cancelled, transitioning instead into a static rally set to take place at Whitehall.This decision follows a significant disagreement between the Metropolitan Police and the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) over the proposed route, which had initially included Portland Place — a location proximal to the BBC headquarters.The Metropolitan Police had voiced concerns that such a demonstration would present risks of serious disruption, particularly to a nearby synagogue, especially as the protest was scheduled on a Saturday, coinciding with the Jewish holy day.Nice people.So sensitive.So who let them into our country ?'Jewish holy day' ?Just one ?The racist fascist sympathisers of these people that read this Forum should however not worry they have nothing to do today.They can go to the Static Rally.For far too many Muslims every day is a Holy day or at least an opportunity to threaten or attack British Jews.

John Hawkes ● 12d

StevenI still have not heard from the Labour Government which Israeli goods are to be affected by a boycott of trade with settlements on the West Bank.Have you ?Interesting analysis from the Spectator of who will really be affected by Burnham and Miliband's virtue signalling.Not them (more Muslim votes in key constituencies) and not Israel (far to economically savvy and literate) but the poor old oppressed Palestinians - the pawns in this game."The passengers on an El Al flight from Tel Aviv last week to Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport were quickly separated and ordered to put their luggage through a screening machine. New checks have been implemented to ensure that travellers are not bringing in forbidden goods from East Jerusalem, the West Bank or the Golan Heights. Writing in Nieuwrechts, a conservative website, Sivan Behr described how surly customs officers corralled the passengers, many of them Israeli, into a separate queue, while shouting at them. Dutch officials, of course, have always been efficient at separating Jews and non-Jews. During the war they separated 107,000 Jews and sent them to the Nazi camps. Only 5,000 returned.​Can we expect such scenes soon at Heathrow or other British airports? Doubtless much of the Labour party, the Greens and the Gaza bloc MPs would welcome such measures. The government has announced similar restrictions, with the details to be published in several months. Settlement goods will be banned. Any business, organisation or individual providing finance, infrastructure or other services for settlements will face penalties. In fact the decision is an economic absurdity, the equivalent of Argentina sanctioning Surrey but not Sussex for sovereignty over the Falklands. It is not possible to sanction a section of a national economy or shared currency area without significant consequences for the remainder – in this case, the Palestinian territories.The Israeli and Palestinian economies are thoroughly enmeshed. Israel, the Palestinian territories and incidentally, Gaza, all use the same currency: the Israeli shekel. (US Dollars and the Jordanian dinar are also used in the Palestinian territories.) Israeli banks provide vital correspondence services for their Palestinian counterparts. Arguably, it would make more financial sense – and be more politically honest – to sanction Israel proper. But that would exact too high a price: for the NHS which relies on Israeli medicines, the security services which rely on Israeli intelligence to keep us safe, the British military which relies on Israeli defence technology.​Instead Burnham and Miliband have opted for a mess of virtue-signalling which will make life worse for the Palestinians. The Palestinian Monetary Authority does not yet issue a sovereign national currency. For now the Palestinian economy is ‘so interlinked with the Israeli economy’, says Daniel Abir, deputy governor of the Bank of Israel, that the shekel is ‘the obvious choice of currency’. Thus the prospect of UK sanctions raises several key questions that would test greater minds than those of the Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary. Most of all, how will these sanctions be able to impose meaningful pain on their targets while not impacting on the Palestinians?​The Palestinian Monetary Authority estimates that Israel Discount Bank and Bank Hapoalim process 51 billion shekels (£12.6bn) a year in transactions for the Palestinian Authority. Ninety per cent of Palestinian trade such as food, fuel and medicines passes through Israel. Thus any sanctions on Israeli banks, firms and the wider economy will immediately be felt in the Palestinian territories. Israeli banks, supermarkets and telecommunications companies all operate in the West Bank. Bank Hapoalim and Israel Discount Bank have branches in, for example, the town of Ma’ale Adumim. While technically a settlement, as it lies beyond the Green Line, Ma’ale Adumim is practically a suburb of Jerusalem and will likely remain inside Israel in any future peace settlement. Will a presence in Ma’ale Adumim be regarded as grounds for sanctions? Or how about Israeli bank branches in East Jerusalem, which was also captured in 1967?In addition, several Israeli banks and companies run substantial operations in Britain. British potential partners may now feel the need to conduct extensive and potentially expensive investigations into the Israeli firms’ areas of operations and location of their subsidiaries before doing any business together. The phenomenon known as de-risking, or overcompliance, means that rather than take any risk of breaching sanctions, British firms and investors may simply choose not to partner with Israeli institutions at all. None of this will help the Palestinians. In fact, it will damage the Palestinian economy and likely cost jobs. As Richard Pater, chief executive of Bicom, a British think-tank, notes, around 20,000 Palestinians work for Israeli companies on the West Bank. All of these jobs are now potentially under threat. ‘The UK’s latest policy towards Israel is an act of political posturing against a critical trade and security partner, disregarding our own national interests.’The case of SodaStream is illustrative. SodaStream operated a factory in Mishor Adumim, the industrial zone of Ma’ale Adumim. The factory employed 1,300 workers, including 500 Palestinians from the West Bank. Their pay and benefits far outstripped anything else they could find on the West Bank. Nonetheless, the Boycott Sanctions Divestment (BDS) movement launched an international campaign against SodaStream. BDS got its victory. In 2015 SodaStream closed its Mishor Adumim site and opened a new factory in Lehavim, in the southern Negev desert, inside Israel proper. The BDS movement was jubilant. ‘This is a clear-cut victory against an odiously complicit Israeli company,’ said Omar Barghouti, a co-founder of BDS. SodaStream said that the campaign was not the key factor in the relocation and it planned to expand its operation. The company tried its best to secure work permits for its 500 Palestinian employees to be allowed to cross into Israel and work at the new factory – an arduous, lengthy journey through checkpoints. The relocation may have been a victory for the BDS movement but was a catastrophe for SodaStream’s Palestinian workers. They needed work permits, which were not granted by the Israeli government. All 500 eventually lost their jobs. Thanks to Labour’s virtue-signalling many more Palestinians could also lose theirs.

John Hawkes ● 11d

Mr Wheeler'Meanwhile back in the UK medicines produced by an Israeli pharmaceutical company for many serious conditions have been banned by The Royal College of Nursing.  Why is this medical profession playing political football with UK patients lives or does it want to trash its image the same as the BMA.'Because so many public bodies as well as much of the public at large have been seduced by the prevailing view that Jews and Israel are evil and Muslims and Palestinians are down trodden paragons of kindness and tolerance.I cannot understand why this is so.It is all part of a leftish trend in public opinion.Some say the cause is the coming to fruition of 'progressive' one might even say 'woke' education of the young which has infected those that now run the supposed caring institutions, in fact simply Trades Unions, you list.Others might say it is the result of naked racist vote seeking by the Labour Party, and the nutty end of politics namely the Corbynist 'Your Party' and the ridiculous yet very dangerous ant-semitic Greens.But whatever the cause the country is changing out of recognition and those non-Muslims that are helping it to happen will themselves be bitten by such a radical political/religious movement - Islamism.Even its fellow travellers on this Forum.Oh as well as being a leader in health and bio-tech the NHS benefits from, also Israel is our ally against Middle East extremist and racist threats and the information it has supplied our security services has saved many lives.Not that Labour and Burnham would admit to this fact as it does not fit their vote winning agenda.

John Hawkes ● 11d

Mr Carter'The International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) is a global, interdisciplinary nonprofit founded in 1994 with about 500 members as of 2025, dedicated to advancing research, teaching, and policy on genocide and its prevention.'The composition of this self defining group which is ad hoc and has no legal or official basis, is quite eclectic though I am always a bit sceptical when I see some are designated as 'artists' or 'activists' or 'journalists'.None describe themselves as brick layers, scaffolders, checkout staff, bus drivers etc etc. ie 'ordinary people.Below is its Constitution from Wikipedia.'Meetings of resolution authors with the full membership are not required by the bylaws but are sometimes held.[10][36] The resolutions passed by the IAGS reflect the association's scholarly assessments on genocide, mass atrocities, and denialism. The IAGS has passed resolutions and issued board statements addressing genocidal crimes and related matters in the following cases: Genocidal actions by Azerbaijan – including a siege, military offensive, and forced expulsion – against the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh,[37] with two additional statements condemning the ongoing Azerbaijani aggression against Armenia[38][39]The Armenian Genocide under the Ottoman Empire,[40] with an open letter to Turkish state authorities in 2005,[41] an open letter in 2006 to others who deny the genocide,[42] and a 2007 executive board letter to the United States Congress in support of a resolution recognizing the genocide[43]The genocide of the Kurds in Iraq, particularly the Anfal campaign[44]The Bangladesh genocide during the war of independence in 1971,[45] with 218 of 626 members (35%) taking part in the vote, of whom 208 approved the resolution, four rejected it and six abstained[46]State-led atrocities against the Uyghurs in China[47]Mass violence and displacement targeting the Rohingya in Myanmar,[48] along with the 2022 condemnation of the banning of an IAGS member's scholarly work in Myanmar[49]Mass atrocities committed during the Syrian Civil War[50]Genocide of Assyrians and Greeks during the late Ottoman period[51]Holocaust denial by Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad[52]The Darfur genocide in western Sudan[53]Crimes committed by ISIS against religious and ethnic minorities, including the Yazidis, Christians, Shia Muslims, and Sunni Kurds[54]Political violence and repression in Zimbabwe under Robert Mugabe[55]The situation in Ukraine following the 2022 Russian invasion[56]Israel's policies and actions in Gaza, in response to the Hamas-led attacks of October 7, 2023, described by the resolution as meeting a legal definition of genocide'I am not sure what they consider to be acts of genocide.a) 'Israel's policies and actions in Gaza'b) Hamas-led attacks of October 7, 2023Or both ?But I can make a good guess.I make two points -1) They like you concentrate specifically and continuously on the actions of Israel.2) They like you seem to easily forget and put aside any other genocidal or major ethnicity specific attacks that are occurring and causing deaths and destruction on a far larger scale than that resulting from Israel's attempt to eliminate the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas in Gaza whose written aim is to annihilate Israel and the Jews.For the same reason I would suggest; bias caused by antisemitism.Oh, I have just noticed that my two points sum up the policy of the Green Party towards Israel, the Jews and antisemitism, though the Great Breast Enhancer seems to be unsure of his stance on the issue before the upcoming by-election at Holborn and St Pancras by-election where he is a candidate.Are you canvassing for him Mr Carter ?

John Hawkes ● 10d

I have said relatively little here about this interminable conflict but I recommend this article, by David Davidi-Brown:https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/green-party/75133/almost-everyone-is-wrong-about-zionism-anti-zionism-greens-zack-polanski?utm_campaign=Lightbulb&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter which discusses the Greens’ conference motion. A huge political own goal by the party, in my view. Polanski, whether he supported the motion or not, surely has zero chance now of being elected on Thursday. Of course the Greens were wrong to support a motion that Zionism equates to racism. But I also believe anyone should be free to condemn the Israeli government when they disapprove of its actions. After all, Israelis and Jews elsewhere in the world do so all the time, so why can’t the rest of us?  In my view, accusations of anti-semitism are made far too readily, which deters some people from saying anything, provokes others into intemperate reactions and is in danger of devaluing the import of the term.Having said all that, it must be evident that how Israel has acted in Gaza, and how it has failed to stop extremist settlers from attacking Palestinians on the West Bank, have resulted in Israel being treated as a pariah by a seemingly ever-lengthening list of countries around the world. That is a tragedy for Israel and its citizens as one result has been the explosive rise in antisemitism. It is also a tragedy for the Palestinians whose hopes of a viable state of their own recede into the future, in the face of Israel’s understandable reluctance to contemplate it. My question is, where will this end? How will this tragedy end?

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Mr CallowayMay I recommend - "The Green Party is now an openly anti-Jewish party"'The Greens’ adoption of the ‘Zionism is Racism’ policy confirms they are a party of bourgeois bigots'.https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/10/04/the-green-party-is-now-an-openly-anti-jewish-party/ The full text is at the end of this post.'Of course the Greens were wrong to support a motion that Zionism equates to racism.'I agree and nearly everyone else on this Forum apart from the usual suspects would do likewise.I am with you on some points but my nose twitched when I came to your paragraphs that started "Having said all that..." and "But I also believe...". 'anyone should be free to condemn the Israeli government when they disapprove of its actions. After all, Israelis and Jews elsewhere in the world do so all the time, so why can’t the rest of us? '1) The Israeli government is CONTINUOUSLY condemned for doing what is the prime responsibility of any state (Andy Burnham please note) which is to protect its citizens security from malign enemy forces. So I am surprised you feel constrained from doing so.You have the right but not the obligation to do so if you think its behaviour so appalling.2) 'It must be evident that how Israel has acted in Gaza, and how it has failed to stop extremist settlers from attacking Palestinians on the West Bank, have resulted in Israel being treated as a pariah by a seemingly ever-lengthening list of countries around the world. That is a tragedy for Israel and its citizens as one result has been the explosive rise in antisemitism. It is also a tragedy for the Palestinians whose hopes of a viable state of their own recede into the future, in the face of Israel’s understandable reluctance to contemplate it.'Attacks by Israeli 'extremists' on Palestinians is of course wrong (and counter productive from a PR perspective) but it is opposed by the Israeli Government and is as of nothing compared to attacks by Palestinians in October 2023 and the threats Hamas still poses.Israel is obviously right to stamp out these terrorists intent on annihilation of the only liberal democracy in the region and our ally.But why do Israel's actions generate antisemitism whilst Palestinian actions generate Islamophilia ?Palestinians can only start to hope for a state of their own when they can guarantee it will be governed democratically by those not intent on fighting its neighbours. ----------------------------------------------------https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/10/04/the-green-party-is-now-an-openly-anti-jewish-party/‘Tell me what you accuse the Jews of [and] I’ll tell you what you are guilty of’, said the great Soviet writer Vasily Grossman. Today, that grim, eternal truth was starkly illustrated by the Green Party’s passing of a motion saying ‘Zionism is Racism’. To throw around the word ‘racism’ even as you single out Jewish sovereignty as uniquely demonic, to pose as an enemy of bigotry even as you dream of the erasure of the world’s only Jewish state, takes moral duplicity to sickening new heights. In their snivelling whisperings about ‘racism’, these scumbags reveal their own.It was at their conference in Brighton that the Green Party of England and Wales voted in favour of the ‘Zionism is Racism’ screed. The motion expressly defines the Greens as an ‘anti-Zionist party’.It says Zionism is a species of racial hatred, and will henceforth be ‘treated as any other form of racism’. Most obnoxiously of all, it commits the Greens to campaigning for the scrubbing of the Jewish nation from the face of the Earth. It calls for ‘the establishment of a single democratic Palestinian State in all of historic Palestine, with Jerusalem as its capital’. So no more Jewish homeland. No more tiny patch of land, a poxy 263 by 71 miles, for the Jews to call their own. All of it would disappear. Imagine accusing others of being ‘genocidal’ even as you agitate for the total dismantling of the ancestral kingdom of the Jews.Anyone who thinks this is ‘just about Israel’, that the Islamo-left’s demented hatred for the Jewish nation has no impact on the Jews of the West, needs to pay closer attention. One of the most chilling events in Brighton today was the enthusiastic voting down of an amendment that would have offered protection to Jewish Greens who attend Zionist synagogues. Designed to ‘safeguard Jewish membership’, the amendment warned against ‘indirect discrimination’ against ‘practising Jews’ on the basis of the ‘synagogues, community centres or denominational groups’ they are aligned with. It was smashed, defeated by 1,026 to 648 votes.Think about this. Really think about it. A mainstream party, and a supposedly progressive one, has just voted against an amendment that would protect its own Jewish members from discrimination on the grounds of the religious institutions they attend. I cannot remember anything like this in my lifetime: a party effectively greenlighting the harassment of Jews who commit the ‘sin’ of attending synagogues that believe in the right of Jews to nationhood. It is stunning. It’s a moral crisis. Not since the BNP has a party so openly committed itself to hostility towards certain Jews.The historic gravity of today’s events cannot be overstated. We now have a party in Britain wholly devoted to the moral annihilation of Jewish sovereignty. A party committed to the abolition of Israel. A party content to hang a target sign around the necks of its own Jewish members who continue to patronise institutions that believe in the continued existence of a Jewish State.If the Tories overnight devoted themselves to the removal from the Earth of the state of Pakistan, and the moral isolation of every pesky Pakistani in Britain who likes that nation, it would be leading the news. Every progressive would cry ‘racism’, and rightly so. Will they do likewise here? Don’t hold your breath – you’ll die.I’ll say it, though. I’ll say that if Jewish nationhood makes you vomit, if the right to self-determination of the Jews keeps you awake at night, then you are a bigot. You might consider yourself woke and good, but your frothing animus for Jewish nationhood betrays the blackness of your soul.For that’s all Zionism is: the belief that the Jews, like every other people, have an inalienable right to build and flourish in the land of their forebears. That the same people who tilt their heads in bourgeois indulgence of every native claim to territory then puke into their matcha when the Jews say ‘What about us?’ tells you everything you need to know. It is impossible to explain these double standards without using the word ‘anti-Semitism’. Go on, try.Cowardice mingles with the bigotry. Behold Zack Polanski, the Green Party leader. He swerved the ‘Zionism is Racism’ vote by choosing instead to campaign in Holborn and St Pancras, where he’s standing in the by-election. What a yellow-bellied toad. What a barrel-scraping coward.For all his bourgeois Israelophobia, he knows that this motion – and in particular its rank, racist refusal to offer protection to Green Jews who attend Zionist synagogues – is ‘problematic’. Yet rather than confront the black mould of Jew-state-phobia that sickens his party, he runs off to London. A spineless worm.Other Green luminaries spoke out against the motion, including former leaders Caroline Lucas and Adrian Ramsay.Good for them. They’ll leave the party now, right?To stay in a party devoted to the demolition of the Jewish nation and the criminalisation of Jewish sovereignty is to make yourself complicit in such ideological barbarism.Everyone in the Greens is now tainted by the pox of an Israelophobia that aspires to nothing less than the physical removal of Israel from the map.I was never a fan of Lucas or the eco-pieties she promoted, yet even I don’t want to see people like her devoured by the insatiable beast of bourgeois Israel-hate. Decent Greens need to get out while they can.That the Greens voted to obliterate Israel and demonise Zionism on the 90th anniversary of the Battle of Cable Street is so, so telling. Who will now deny that anti-Zionism has replaced anti-Semitism as the chief ideological means of persecuting Jews?Ninety years ago, fascist filth saw the Jews as the moral corrupters of European society, as an Octopus-like entity strangling our way of life. Today, ‘progressives’ view the Jewish state in the same way: as a uniquely pox-like ‘entity’ that kills children, ails the West, and wields disproportionate influence over our slack-jawed governments. Humanists should condemn the Green Party motion as fulsomely as they would have done Mosley’s Blackshirt march down Cable St.Back to Grossman: what you say about them is far truer of you. It’s not Zionism that is racism – it’s anti-Zionism.It’s wrong to ‘equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism’, says the Greens’ neo-Mosleyite policy. They protest way too much. If you spend your every waking hour demonising Jewish sovereignty, and dreaming of the annihilation of the Jewish State, and calling the Jewish homeland a genocidal, child-killing machine, then you have a problem with Jews. It’s that simple. The Green Party of England and Wales has a problem with Jews. Avoid these bigoted shits like your life depends on it.Brendan O’Neill is spiked’s chief political writer 

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"Eleven arrested as pro-Palestinian marches held in London"'Eleven people were arrested as several pro-Palestinian demonstrations were held in London on Wednesday, the Metropolitan Police has said.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqev39rv43x8oAmong them were five people arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred at a protest outside the office of the Board of Deputies of British Jews in north London.The force said the other arrests were made at student-led pro-Palestinian protests elsewhere in the capital, which went ahead despite calls for them to be postponed so they did not fall on 7 October. One of those arrested was part of a counter-protest.Wednesday marked three years since the 7 October attack on Israel by Hamas, in which around 1,200 people were killed and 251 others were taken as hostages by the militant group.''A pro-Palestinian march attended by around 100 people took place between Lincoln's Inn Fields to Russell Square.The Met had previously called for the student protest to take place on a different day, saying demonstrations on 7 October would cause distress on a day of mourning for Jewish students and staff.Counter-demonstrators carrying Israeli flags also gathered in Russell Square. There were some minor scuffles between the two groups.Five people were arrested for breaching conditions imposed on the march, which included an order not to wear face coverings, the Met said.One of those who was arrested for breaching those restrictions was part of a counter-protest.Another person on the pro-Palestinian march was arrested on suspicion of common assault'.Take a look at the riff-raff protesting.Has anyone else heard the rumour that the man who sells home and away scarves before FFC games at Craven Cottage also has a handy little side hustle selling black and white tea towels to gullible white youths at pro-Palestine marches ?

John Hawkes ● 8d