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Not quite right, Nigel.

"The police force accused of anti-white racism after officers’ response to the murder of Henry Nowak is over five times more likely to subject black people to a stop and search than white people, according to the latest figures.The racial disparity in the Hampshire force is higher than the average for England and Wales, and has worsened in recent years." (Guardian, naturally)

David Ainsworth ● 26d55 Comments

Yes, just ignore the facts as usual.

Philippa Bond ● 13d

Just ignore the prig.  Many of us already do!

Sue Hammond ● 14d

Ms Bond'Quotation marks shouldn't be used unless the wording within them is exact'."Sorry Miss""Thank you Miss""Is the above use OK Miss ?"

John Hawkes ● 14d

Insults don't win arguments.Quotation marks shouldn't be used unless the wording within them is exact.Sometimes mistakes are made.

Philippa Bond ● 14d

@Mr Hawkes“ Perhaps we should just accept him for the self-important nonentity that he is.”💯👍

Sue Hammond ● 18d

Ms Hammond'I don’t think DA will burst his own little bubble of dubious ‘fame’.'Ainsworth never answers any direct question be it on Farage or Israel.Schoolboy "ya booing" is more his style.Perhaps we should just accept him for the self-important nonentity that he is.

John Hawkes ● 19d

I suspect that the forum Ainsworth rather likes being labelled a Guardian journalist even though it’s a low rent paper always begging for donations.  I don’t think DA will burst his own little bubble of dubious ‘fame’.

Sue Hammond ● 19d

StevenIf our Mr Ainsworth is not the same person as dredged up by Google as an 'activist' and 'charity worker' as well as a contributor to the Guardian, then both deserve my apologies which I humbly offer.My only defence m'Lud is that the opinions of both on pretty much every topic seem to match. 'Macavity' he remains !

John Hawkes ● 19d

John, while David Ainsworth may hold views on Israel and other topics similar to those regularly published in the ‘Guardian’, I don’t believe he is the same David Ainsworth as the ‘Guardian’ journalist of that name. Perhaps the Putney Forum Ainsworth would like to confirm this. Or maybe the actual journalist, if he reads Putney Forum, would like to disavow any responsibility for the comments made by his namesake. I would certainly advise this course of action.

Steven Rose ● 19d

Mr Ainsworth'Et tu, Brute?Surely for you "This was the most unkindest cut of all"."Brutal methods Hamas use to strike fear into Palestinians including public executions, kneecappings and bone-breaking with concrete bricks are outlined in UN report"https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15891589/Brutal-methods-Hamas-use-strike-fear-Palestinians-including-public-executions-kneecappings-bone-breaking-concrete-bricks-outlined-report.htmlEven the UN no longer find the Palestinian cause one based upon a desire for freedom and self determination, rather than one driven by gangster-lead terror and self-aggrandisement.I assume you and the Palestinian Liberation Front of West Putney plus fellow travellers in the Guardian editorial office would disagree ? 

John Hawkes ● 19d

The extreme interpretation placed on the Macpherson principle by the Hampshire Constabulary, more or less obliging police officers to accept that a hate crime has been committed on the word of a self-declared victim, was partly responsible for the dreadful treatment meted out to Henry Nowak. But this is just one example of the way in which woke ideology has undermined proper governance in recent years. Another example is the case where health professionals, citing the over-representation of black males in locked wards, decided not to detain Valdo Colocane under the Mental Health Act despite the fact that he had been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia with a history of violent psychotic episodes. Colocane went on to stab three people to death in Nottingham in 2023 and to attack three others. Yet another example of woke ideology is the fact that admission tutors in some elite universities ask for lower A level grades from state school pupils, citing the fact that a disproportionately high number of university students are taken from independent schools.All these are example of woke social engineering whereby the principles of natural justice (whether the fact that both sides have a right to be heard before making a judgment about racial discrimination or that the safety of the public  should be paramount when deciding whether to section individuals under the Mental Health Act or that pupils who have worked hard to achieve high grades in competitive exams should not suffer discrimination by virtue of having attended an independent school) have been sacrificed in order to achieve the utopian goal of eliminating inequality. Equality of opportunity is a worthwhile ideal but it should not be pursued at the expense of natural justice.

Steven Rose ● 20d

Et tu, Brute?

David Ainsworth ● 20d

Well said John

Robert Wheeler ● 20d

Mr Ainsworth'Musk's daddy is in Moscow with Tommy Robinson. How excited you must be.'What a bitter and twisted old Guardian journalist you are.However like your colleagues you are very skilled at including little digs and gratuitous insults at your standard so called 'extreme right wing' pet hates.Farage, Musk, Tommy Robinson...Do you have their names on a Postit note on your keyboard or on your office wall at King's Place.I set you a challenge.Keep this thread going by bringing Trump and Netanyahu into the conversation.I have no doubt you have evidence that in fact the IDF and Mossad were the actual killers of Henry Nowak and that Vickrum Digwa was framed by them and the Jewish lobby when in fact he was just a peace loving pro-Palestine supporter who happened to be innocently protesting nearby.You should publish all of your secret knowledge on the incident.Who knows, the Ainsworth letter might go down in history as did Zinoviev letter.

John Hawkes ● 20d

Mr Ainsworth'You are confused and desperate.'And you are a boring old fart.We are probably as well educated and experienced in life,  if not more so than you are and know all of this.Give it a rest.

John Hawkes ● 20d

"Correct thread tension on a Singer sewing machine ensures the upper and lower threads lock perfectly in the middle of your fabric. For most standard sewing projects, the top tension dial should be set between 3 and 4. Adjust the tension only after verifying the machine is correctly threaded, clean, and has the right needle."My God Ainsworth.What a f*cking smartarse you are and don't you think you are amusing.But we should pity you.Who else on a nice sunny day during a Forum thread on a serious topic about which there is a variety of opinion people wish to express, you fill your obviously ample free time to use your Artificial Intelligence to come up with this rubbish.Are you the wittiest person in your house ?

John Hawkes ● 20d

"The pathologist might be correct"Might be - but you feel free to cast doubt, with no knowledge, just a compulsion to be right.Musk's daddy is in Moscow with Tommy Robinson. How excited you must be.

David Ainsworth ● 20d

Your sarcasm is gratuitous and inappropriate.  Henry Nowak was indeed gravely wounded but still conscious and able to speak to the officers but they wasted precious minutes focussing on Digwa and his relatives.    The pathologist might be correct but we will never know if it is absolute fact, but the actual fact is that poor Henry wasn’t afforded the chance of survival.Wtf did you bring Musk into it?  Trying to be clever as usual?  Or are you just indoctrinated by your Guardian anti-right views?

Sue Hammond ● 20d

Oh God, the cavalry is here."there may have been a chance to save his life" "During the June 2026 sentencing of his murderer, Vickrum Digwa, at Southampton Crown Court, Judge William Mousley KC stated that the pathologist’s evidence was absolute. The first of four stab wounds inflicted by Digwa severed a major internal vein. The judge confirmed that the injury was so severe that Nowak would not have survived, regardless of how quickly he received first aid, CPR, or expert emergency medical treatment."You may know better, of course. Perhaps we have two-tier pathology and two-tier justice. That must be it.Never mind the multi-billionaires like Musk seem to be on your side, so you must be right. Great days a-coming!

David Ainsworth ● 20d

@DA 10.05“The police did not judge.  You are confused and desperate.”And you are either being disingenuous or obtuse with your use of the word ‘power’.  The police made a JUDGEMENT which was totally wrong; and then acted erroneously by not following the core police objective of protecting life.  In this respect they totally failed Henry Nowak because if they had acted correctly there may have been a chance to save his life.  Instead, they ignored his pleas for help, ignored him when he said he’d been stabbed and ignored him when he repeatedly gasped that he couldn’t breathe.  It was only when he was being roughly manhandled to handcuff his arms behind his back that they started to take notice of his predicament.  By then it was too late.  When the police first arrived on the scene their first priority should have been to ascertain if anyone was injured, and then assess the situation.  Colour, creed or ethnicity of the people involved is not relevant at that point.  So why did the police focus on Digwa and what his relatives were saying, and not on what the stricken man lying on the ground was trying to tell them?Your Lefty Bible gets it wrong again.  Two-tier policing must stop!

Sue Hammond ● 20d

"It does not say that that the police should judge them as hate crimes on the word of the victim, which is what happened in this tragic case."The police did not judge. You are confused and desperate."The Division of PowerIn the legal system, there is a strict separation of duties between law enforcement and the judiciary. The police belong to the executive branch of government, while judges belong to the judicial branch. This separation ensures that the people who investigate crimes are not the same people who decide guilt or punishment.The Standard ProcessInvestigation and Arrest: Police officers investigate crimes, detain suspects, and make arrests based on "probable cause" or reasonable suspicion.Restraint: They may use handcuffs for safety during an arrest, but this is a procedural security measure, not a punishment.Charging: Depending on the jurisdiction, the police (or a public prosecutor based on police evidence) will formally charge the suspect with a crime.Trial: If the defendant pleads "not guilty," the case proceeds to a trial.Verdict: Only a judge (or a jury of peers, depending on the case and country) evaluates the evidence to determine guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.In short, the police enforce the law, prosecutors present the law, and judges interpret and apply the law."I was a juror long ago in a trial for rape. A young woman had accused a young man of rape. There were, as is normal I would assume, no witnesses. She went to the police, who eventually arrested him and brought him in. They did not judge him on the word of the victim, they investigated the case. He later was brought to trial, where he was judged.On the other hand, in the Digwa murder, there was a "witness". He was Digwa's brother and lied to the police. That makes two voluble liars to one honest person.

David Ainsworth ● 21d

The Macpherson principle, which in my opinion needs further scrutiny, says that  incidents perceived by victims to be hate crimes need to be recorded and investigated. It does not say that that the police should judge them as hate crimes on the word of the victim, which is what happened in this tragic case. The officers simply took the word of Digwa against Henry Nowak and chose to disbelieve the young man’s plea that he had been stabbed. The handcuffs were completely unnecessary in this situation.

Steven Rose ● 21d

"Correct thread tension on a Singer sewing machine ensures the upper and lower threads lock perfectly in the middle of your fabric. For most standard sewing projects, the top tension dial should be set between 3 and 4. Adjust the tension only after verifying the machine is correctly threaded, clean, and has the right needle."

David Ainsworth ● 21d

You're back, are you?"he was  handcuffed even though he was dying"So the police knew that he was dying from stab wounds, did they?

David Ainsworth ● 21d

"Why did the police choose to believe Digwa over the victim?"They were fooled. And after a few minutes there they began to realise it. They removed the handcuffs after 2-3 minutes."Why did they decide to handcuff a man lying on the ground in distress when the guidance says that handcuffs should only be used by officers  to prevent escape or to protect themselves or to stop further violence?"They had been told by their control that he was the perpetrator and they knew that perpetrators often do pretend that they are the victim. He had been falsely accused of violence. Can you see the difficulty from your position up there upon lofty Olympus?"Why did they ignore Henry Nowak’s dying words, ‘I can’t breathe’." Because they knew that perpetrators can lie."The explanation is to be found in the woke ideology of the Hampshire Constabulary who have encouraged their officers to accept as true any allegations of racism made by an alleged victim, to disbelieve white people who deny allegations of racism and to prioritise the arrest of those who commit hate crime.""to disbelieve white people who deny allegations of racism" - really, is that a quote? Did you hear of Macpherson? Woke ideology, huh!!"All 43 territorial police forces in England and Wales are expected to adhere to the core principles and recommendations originating from the 1999 Macpherson Report. However, the operational enforcement of these principles—such as recording hate crimes and community engagement—varies by force because Chief Constables maintain independent control over their specific regions.The Macpherson principle itself explicitly mandates that any incident or crime perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person must be recorded and investigated as a racist incident. The goal is to prevent the dismissal of complaints by officers before a full investigation occurs.While this definition and the related ethical guidelines are fully adopted in policy, systemic adoption remains uneven:The "Macpherson Principle": Officially integrated into the national ethical framework to prevent the under-recording of hate crime. Forces utilize the College of Policing standards to train officers on bias, equality, and diversity.Institutional Challenges: Major reviews—including reports from the UK Parliament's Home Affairs Committee and the Independent Office for Police Conduct—have highlighted that implementation remains inconsistent across all 43 forces. Issues like the disproportionate use of stop-and-search powers and a lack of proportional BAME representation indicate that some forces still fail to meet the broader cultural aims of the original 1999 report.""The behaviour of the police has shocked the whole nation and drawn criticism from all political leaders, including the Prime Minister.  The only person who has sought to defend the actions of the officers concerned is you. That is because you are seeking to make political capital out of the case, namely to attack Reform by impugning Nigel Farage’s motives and falsely accusing him of sewing  racial tension when all he has done is to insist that everyone should be treated equally before the law."Yeah, yeah, just me. Everybody else is on your side .... blah, blah and indeed blah. Poor Nigel Farage - a lone voice crying in the wilderness, with millions of followers and millions of pounds."The Macpherson principle itself explicitly mandates that any incident or crime perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person must be recorded and investigated as a racist incident. The goal is to prevent the dismissal of complaints by officers before a full investigation occurs."It is before a full investigation occurs - it is not the investigation nor the proof of guilt.

David Ainsworth ● 21d

Sowing tension.

Steven Rose ● 21d

You are correct in stating that the police had been wrongly informed that Henry Nowak had abused Digwa and knocked his turban off, but you gloss ove the most important aspects of the case:1) Why did the police choose to believe Digwa over the victim?2) Why did they decide to handcuff a man lying on the ground in distress when the guidance says that handcuffs should only be used by officers  to prevent escape or to protect themselves or to stop further violence?Why did they ignore Henry Nowak’ s dying words, ‘I can’t breathe’.The explanation is to be found in the woke ideology of the Hampshire Constabulary who have encouraged their officers to accept as true any allegations of racism made by an alleged victim, to disbelieve white people who deny allegations of racism and to prioritise the arrest of those who commit hate crime. The behaviour of the police has shocked the whole nation and drawn criticism from all political leaders, including the Prime Minister.  The only person who has sought to defend the actions of the officers concerned is you. That is because you are seeking to make political capital out of the case, namely to attack Reform by impugning Nigel Farage’s motives and falsely accusing him of sewing  racial tension when all he has done is to insist that everyone should be treated equally before the law.

Steven Rose ● 21d

Who knew that people lie to the police.And consequently when the police arrived they were rendered deaf and could not hear repeated claims of l’ve been stabbed and repeatedly shouts of l can’t breathe.  Henry was handcuffed because the two claimants were not treated equally.he was  handcuffed even though he was dying, the law should be equal to all people.

Robert Wheeler ● 21d

"The Core Claims Made to PoliceThe police released the 11-minute emergency call audio following the murder trial of 18-year-old university student Henry Nowak. In the call, Gurpreet Digwa stated:Racial Assault: He claimed he and his brother were victims of a racial assault, stating, "Yeah, we just got attacked racially by some white person."Physical Altercation: He alleged that Nowak had physically assaulted his brother and knocked off his turban.Active Detention: He told the operator, "We're restraining him right now because he's just attacked my brother..."Denying Weapons: When explicitly asked by the call handler, Gurpreet denied that any weapons were involved and completely omitted the fact that Vickrum had stabbed Nowak five times.The Impact of the LieThe investigation and subsequent trial at Southampton Crown Court revealed that Gurpreet had not actually witnessed the initial encounter. Instead, he simply repeated the "wicked lie" manufactured by his brother.Because the emergency response team was led to believe the brothers were the victims, arriving police officers mistakenly handcuffed and arrested the fatally injured Henry Nowak as he lay dying on the ground."So you are wrong AND you still can't spell Henry Nowak's name.

David Ainsworth ● 21d

No, the police were not called to intervene in a case where a Sikh had been ‘attacked’. They were told that a Sikh had been the victim of racial abuse. They evidently thought it appropriate to handcuff a person lying on the ground in obvious distress for an alleged verbal crime. How can that possibly be justified? Handcuffs should only be used to prevent escape, protect themselves or stop violence. None of these criteria was applicable in Henry Novak’s case.You are not just wrong about this case, you are also wrong about me. I am not a supporter of Reform. I admire Kemi Badenoch and I voted for the Conservatives at the last election.

Steven Rose ● 21d

Blimey David breathe.  Time to take a break David and step away from the computer.

Robert Wheeler ● 21d

The real culprits in this case (apart from the assailant himself) are senior officers of the Hampshire Constabulary who evidently saw the adoption of woke ideology as a way to achieve promotion. They defined hate crime as ‘any criminal offence  which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person’s race or perceived race’. In other words it’s a hate crime if the ‘victim’ says it’s a hate crime. So when the murderer Digwa said he had been a victim of racial abuse, the police officers at the scene were obliged by their superiors to take his word for it. Nevertheless  that still does not excuse their conduct. They should not have ignored Henry Novak’s desperate plea, ‘I can’t breathe’, nor should they have dismissed his claim that he had been stabbed without checking.

Steven Rose ● 21d

"They didn't mention two tier policing as such but they clearly felt that Henry was not treated with equality before the law." Which does not mean that they generalise from this murder to all policing."The police preferred to believe a false report of a gate crime made by a brown person over a true report of a deadly assault made by a white victim."They went to the incident as a result of the false report. There was no other call.And how long before they began to realise that the situation was not as reported?2 to 3 minutes. How long would it take you?"But I would like to think that I would not have ignored the victim's plea"Oh, we would all like to think that, but we have not experienced this situation. The police were sent to what they were told was a racial attack on a Sikh done by a white person. You prefer to believe that the police officers were anti-white, rather than failing to do a proper job in a complex situation. You prefer to generalise from this individual case to "two-tier policing" the latest rightwing mantra- "the police are all like this"."Frankly  I find your attempt to defend the conduct of the police contemptible, motivated principally by a desire to attack Reform (a party which I don't support).""Frankly" - I doubt that."I find your attempt to defend the conduct of the police contemptible" - I find your attempt make political capital out of poor policing contemptible."motivated principally by a desire to attack Reform"- more of a desire to try and find the facts from amongst the ill-intentioned bullshit and lies."Reform (a party which I don't support)". Yeah, right.

David Ainsworth ● 21d

They didn't mention two tier policing as such but they clearly felt that Henry was not treated with equality before the law. The police preferred to believe a false report of a gate crime made by a brown person over a true report of a deadly assault made by a white victim. That is precisely what is meant by two tier policing. As to what I would gave done had I been a policeman, I don't know. But I would like to think that I would not have ignored the victim's plea, 'I can't breathe', especially since these were the very words spoken by George Floyd. And l when someone lying on the ground says, 'I've been stabbed', I don't think I would have replied, 'No you haven't, mate', without checking. Frankly  I find your attempt to defend the conduct of the police contemptible, motivated principally by a desire to attack Reform (a party which I don't support).

Steven Rose ● 21d

"And it has made our streets safer as none of us were aware that the police actually treated races differently.  I certainly wasn’t.  I assumed in the eyes of the law we were all totally equally."Really, you don't think that the police are pro-Palestinian then?

David Ainsworth ● 21d

And where did the Nowak family mention your and Farage's issue of two tier policing? An issue that is used purposely to cause division, which the Nowak family did not wish to be caused.The police had been called to a reported racial attack on a Sikh. When the police arrived the actual killer told them the same lies. Would you as a policeman have immediately assumed that the Sikh pretend-victim must be lying?By the way, you call the family Novak in your postings.

David Ainsworth ● 21d

Exactly. The family said that they did not want Henry’s death to be the cause of further division, hatred or tension. But they did not ask for complete silence on the issues raised. On the contrary, they argued that the government should ensure that everyone should be treated equally before the law. Nigel Farage expressed his anger at the fact that Henry Novak had not been treated equally. He was handcuffed as he lay dying because the police preferred to accept Digwa’s claim of racial abuse than his plea that he had been stabbed. Farage was perfectly entitled to express his anger at this obvious injustice. He was not stirring up racial hatred towards the Sikh community or any other community.  He was criticising the police.

Steven Rose ● 21d

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-two-tier-policing-37249731

Philippa Bond ● 21d

And it has made our streets safer as none of us were aware that the police actually treated races differently.  I certainly wasn’t.  I assumed in the eyes of the law we were all totally equally.

Robert Wheeler ● 21d

"They did not ask for complete silence on the issue of two tier policing which the behaviour of the officers has raised. "Did they say that?I'm sure that they said:-"We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred, or tension… This is not a case about racism. This is a case about murder. We want his story to make our streets safer for everyone."

David Ainsworth ● 21d

Henry Novak’s family asked that the ‘tragedy is not used to inflame division or hostility’. They did not ask for complete silence on the issue of two tier policing which the behaviour of the officers has raised. Nigel Farage’s ‘rage’, which is shared by many people in this country, was not directed at the Sikh community but at the actions of the police. The sanctimonious and disingenuous criticism of Nigel Farage, claiming that he has in some way flouted the wishes of the Novak family in their hour of mourning, is simply an attempt to gloss over the danger of woke policing and to attack Reform.

Steven Rose ● 21d

From memory I think Farage made his statement before Mr Nowak made his.  However I could be wrong, you can check the timelines yourself if it bothers you so much.

Sue Hammond ● 21d

We most definitely know whose side you are on!  How about reading and quoting someone else eg Ian Dunt of the i-paper says instead of just the right wing INFLAMMATORY stuff that you do repeat on here! Farage totally and completely ignored what the father of Henry Nowak called for which was for his son's death to not cause further division.  That's really shameful.

Philippa Bond ● 21d

Mr Ainsworth'So are you blaming the Sikh community, the Labour government, Hampshire Police, the killer or an alliance of some of them'?"Calm down dear, calm down"Most commentators would say that this sad event raised some major societal issues, long suppressed, that need airing.But not of course you and those of your colleagues on the Guardian whose positions we can all surmise, some of whom blame everyone else.Take for instance this cliché riven article."What to do as murder is exploited to spread lies about race and privilege? Stand firm – fight back"Nesrine Malikhttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/08/murder-exploited-lies-race-privilege-henry-nowakSo yes I do 'blame' many of those you mention. The Sikh community for claiming and having the right to walk around carrying a large dagger 'for religious purposes'.Any other racial minority that is shown some sort of right to societal preference in terms of employment, official representation and even policing as described in various community policing guidelines which lead in turn to suspicions of 'two tier policing'.The Labour Government for endorsing and promoting many of the above positions and policies for electoral benefit and then attacking rather than trying to understand the lack of support for them and also the other views of the non-black majority of the Populus whose views are now being legitimately promoted by Reform.The Hampshire police for its blind following of racialised policing guidelines supported by 'progressive' Parties including Labour, though to its credit the force is now reviewing its adherence to them.The killer certainly who, having free will, still chose to maintain with fatal consequence a fetish for knives and weapons and then attempted to pretend that for him and his ilk this was a religious and cultural norm.His family for aiding and abetting him.And the likes of you for being on the wrong side not only of history but the current immigration and cultural zeitgeist.

John Hawkes ● 21d

@DA 8.6 22.Answers to your questions No idea what’s is posted on X because I don’t use it.  It’s a cesspitI’ll discuss with him next time …All of the above, in part.  Plus its  family

Sue Hammond ● 21d

Mr Ainsworth'Starmer and Farage had different intentions.'In what regard ?Both were made for political purposes to gain approval from their supporters.It's just that with his usual political adroitness Starmer (and Rayner) sought to attract the black vote by showing over dramatic sympathy for an American petty criminal, killed by a policeman who then received by due process a 22 year custodial sentence.Farage was pointing out the hypocrisy of a white British citizen Henry Nowak killed in Southampton by Vickrum Digwa in December 2025, using a knife prosecutors said that Digwa – a Sikh – carried as part of his religion, before being himself (Nowak) arrested on a trumped up charge of racism.Digwa got a life  sentence for murder and his mother 21 years for aiding and abetting him.We know whose side you and the Guardianistas take on this issue.

John Hawkes ● 21d

"Farage is right to ask questions because so much is being covered up by this Government."Ask questions on X?!But somehow you know what is being covered up. Perhaps you could tell Farage.So are you blaming the Sikh community, the Labour government, Hampshire Police, the killer or an alliance of some of them?

David Ainsworth ● 22d

Farage is right to ask questions because so much is being covered up by this Government.  Rumours were already circulating about Digwa’s unhealthy obsession with ceremonial swords and other bladed weapons and even the Sikh community had spoken to the police about their concerns:Sikh community leaders have told Sky News that they raised concerns about Vickrum Digwa before he went on to kill Henry Nowak, but believe police did not take their warnings seriously enough. Hampshire police said they followed up all available lines of enquiry at the time of the complaint.#skynews #britishsikh #uksikh #sikh #uknews

Sue Hammond ● 22d

No. Farage knows what he can stir up. He did it before when he responded to the Southport murders:-"Farage was described as “utterly shameful” by the Tory peer Lord Barwell, the former MP who served as Theresa May’s Downing Street chief of staff.He said: “He is an MP. If he has questions, he could have asked them in the House of Commons yesterday – but he wasn’t there. Instead he prefers to encourage those spreading misinformation on here [social media]. Utterly shameful.”Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services.“I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said." (Gdn July 2024)On X - that's the obvious place to get a correct answer!And the boot boys appeared again this time, after Feignrage's "pure rage".

David Ainsworth ● 22d

Their intentions were the same, to express anger. But because George Floyd was black, Starmer’s  reaction to his unlawful killing was deemed to be righteous anger, even though 1) the charge of racism was never proved since of the four policemen responsible for George Floyd’s death two were were white, one was black and one was Asian and 2)  the riots that erupted after his death cost the lives of 42 people, including a black policeman. In contrast, Farage’s anger over the woke neglect by police officers towards Henry Novak, a white victim of a racist attack by an Asian, is deemed irresponsible, if not racist.

Steven Rose ● 22d

Starmer and Farage had different intentions.

David Ainsworth ● 22d

Can someone explain why it was all right for Keir Starner to express his 'anger' over the killing of George Floyd but wicked of Nigel Farage to express his 'rage' over the killing of Henry Novak?

Steven Rose ● 22d

An analysis of the situation that gives a better insight than many is that of Ian Dunt in the i-paper on 3 June.

Philippa Bond ● 23d

Mr Ainsworth'The police force accused of anti-white racism after officers’ response to the murder of Henry Nowak is over five times more likely to subject black people to a stop and search than white people, according to the latest figures'.Mr Ixer is very good at data analysis so perhaps he might comment as to whether 'stop and search' numbers are in any way correlated to the number of crimes committed in an area by black people.I am surprised that black perpetrated crime is so high in Hampshire.I always imagined it to be a haven of white tranquillity.Still if your colleagues in the Guardian say it's true then it must be.I note that another of your Guardian ex-colleagues Gaby Hinsliff writing in what is in the main a 'Farage knocking' and woke promoting column does at least acknowledge the following - "the former mental health tsar Prof Louis Appleby’s warning last week that the pendulum had swung too far from public safety towards respecting patients’ wishes". https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/05/nigel-farage-woke-kills-culture-war-henry-nowak-southamptonThe patients with mental health problems that lead to them committing violent crime that she refers to were black and those interacting with them doubtless were not.That's why Farage's views on DEI are not deemed outlandish by the general public when they read about such incidents and attitudes particularly that relating to Henry Nowak.

John Hawkes ● 25d

What a pity the Sikh murderer wasn’t one of them. 

Sue Hammond ● 25d