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Trump in the Atlantic yesterday

"In a telephone interview this morning, President Donald Trump issued a not-so-veiled threat against the new Venezuelan leader, Delcy Rodríguez, saying that “if she doesn’t do what’s right, she is going to pay a very big price, probably bigger than Maduro,” referring to Nicolás Maduro, now residing in a New York City jail cell. Trump made clear that he would not stand for Rodríguez’s defiant rejection of the armed U.S. intervention that resulted in Maduro’s capture.""pay a very big price, probably bigger than Maduro,”So death, maybe?"When I asked this morning why nation building and regime change in Venezuela would be different from similar efforts he previously opposed in Iraq, Trump suggested posing the question to former President George W. Bush.“I didn’t do Iraq. That was Bush. You’ll have to ask Bush that question, because we should have never gone into Iraq. That started the Middle East disaster,” Trump said.""Secretary of State Marco Rubio said yesterday that the world should take notice after the Venezuela operation. “​​When he tells you that he’s going to do something, when he tells you he’s going to address a problem, he means it,” Rubio said. Trump has repeatedly said that the U.S. “needs” to control Greenland.Trump said it was up to others to decide what U.S.-military action in Venezuela means for Greenland. “They are going to have to view it themselves. I really don’t know. He was very generous to me, Marco, yesterday,” Trump said. “You know, I wasn’t referring to Greenland at that time. But we do need Greenland, absolutely. We need it for defense.”"https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/01/trump-venezuela-maduro-delcy-rodriguez/685497/"After the raid, a former Trump administration official turned podcaster, Katie Miller, posted an illustrated map of Greenland in the colours of the US stars and stripes with the caption: "SOON." (Sky News 4/1)(Ms Miller is married to Mr Trump's influential deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller)."On Sunday, Dmitry ‍Medvedev, a former Russian president and close ally of Vladimir Putin, said the attacks on Venezuela were unlawful but consistent because Mr Trump was defending US interests.“It must be acknowledged ‍that, ‌despite the obvious unlawfulness of Trump’s behaviour, one cannot deny a certain consistency ‍in his actions. He and his team defend their country’s national interests quite harshly,” he told state news."So what sort of lesson is it for Russia and China then?

David Ainsworth ● 4d50 Comments

Some facts ....Venezulan opposition leader. It was Trump who rejected Venezuela s opposition leader. From Time: 'Asked on Saturday if he thought Machado could run the country after Maduro’s ouster, Trump distanced himself from Venezuela’s most visible democratic figure, saying it would be “very tough” for her. “She’s a very nice woman, but she doesn’t have the respect within the country,” Trump said.'Oil. If it's not about oil, why were oil companies briefed before the operation- but not Congress! From the Hill: 'President Trump said Sunday that he spoke to oil companies ahead of the operation in Venezuela and claimed they’re eager to revitalize the industry in the South American nation.' (Then the exports to China in contravention of sanctions ... if they're not continued what are the repercussions?) Yes, a lot of investment is required but, in what some see, an uncertain environment and times. It's obviously not about needing the oil, it's controlling the supply. Perhaps if US chip production can be ramped up then Taiwan will be written off; that's also why Greenland is valuable for minerals: although I'm sure Greenland & Denmark will be willing to trade them with NATO allies.Drugs: In March 2021, Purdue Pharma [Fentanyl's supplier] filed a restructuring plan to dissolve itself and establish a new company dedicated to programs designed to combat the opioid crisis. The proposal was for the Sackler family to pay an additional US$4.2 billion over the next nine years to resolve various civil claims[70] in exchange for immunity from criminal prosecutions. (Ref: Wikipedia) Perhaps the Maduras will be allowed to negotiate a settlement like the Sackler family? To be fair, I guess Trump may naturally have concern about drugs because of his elder brother's (Fred's) addiction and premature death. Was killing circa 50 troops proportionate to arrest Madura and his wife? History will judge ...

Michael Ixer ● 3d

Mr Ixer1) 'Maduro wasn't a very savoury character.'Understatement of 2026 !2) 'It also seems odd that the Venezuelan VP, who one is assumed to be tainted by her association with Maduro' is considered preferable to the opposition Nobel Peace Price winner'.By whom ?Note - 'Venezuela’s opposition leader, Maria Corina Machado, says she has not spoken to United States President Donald Trump since October last year, even as she fulsomely lauds his administration’s brazen military actions in Venezuela.In a brief interview with Sean Hannity on the Hannity ​programme by Fox News, the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize winner said she wants to “personally” thank the president for the abduction of Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro.'From Aljazeera today.3) 'In my opinion, it's very much about the oil and other resources.'To the likes of you this simplistic analysis always is.It's the Guardianista one promulgated by teenage scribblers little Owen Jones and Nasrine Malik.  Here is a more nuanced and geo-politically sophisticated  one from the Spectator -'To view the dramatic defenestration of the Venezuelan regime as a resource raid is to misunderstand the fundamental shift in American grand strategy. Washington did not decapitate the Venezuelan state because it needs more oil; it did so because it is preparing itself for a possible war with China.The ‘oil imperialism’ theory collapses under the weight of basic data. The United States is no longer the energy-starved giant of the late 20th century. Texas alone now accounts for approximately 43 per cent of US crude oil production and 31 per cent of its refining capacity. America is awash in its own hydrocarbons. The strategic imperative, therefore, is not the seizure of Venezuelan crude, which is heavy, sour, and difficult to refine, but the protection of American infrastructure.The vast refining and export complexes of the US Gulf Coast, the jugular of the Western economy, sit uncomfortably close to the Venezuelan littoral. In an era of hypersonic missiles and loitering munitions, the Caribbean is no longer a sleepy tourist lake; it is a vulnerable southern flank. The calculations in the Pentagon are straightforward and entirely rational: the distance from northern Venezuela to Houston is roughly 3,300 kilometres (2,050 miles); to the Panama Canal, it is barely 1,100 kilometres (680 miles).Venezuela has left Trump feeling cockyThis is where the great power competition with Beijing enters the calculus. For the last two decades, while Washington was bogged down in the Middle East quagmire, the People’s Republic of China has been quietly purchasing loyalty in the Western Hemisphere. The numbers are staggering. In 2024, trade between China and the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States (CELAC) hit $551 billion (£400 billion). More pointedly, Venezuela accounted for roughly 44 per cent of China’s total development finance in the region since 2005.Maduro was not merely a socialist pariah; he was a strategic landlord. He offered the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) a foothold in America’s backyard. The nightmare scenario for US planners was never a socialist Venezuela, but a weaponised one, a Caribbean outpost hosting Chinese intelligence capabilities, long-range bombers, or missile batteries. If socialism was the threat, why whack Venezuela and not Cuba?This anxiety is inextricably linked to the future of Taiwan. American war planners understand that a conflict in the South China Sea would not remain local. If the US Navy attempts to blockade the Strait of Malacca or defend Taipei, Beijing’s countermove would be to threaten the American homeland or its logistics to force a negotiated settlement. A hostile Venezuela, armed with Chinese Anti-Access/Area Denial (A2/AD) systems, could hold the Gulf Coast hostage, effectively checking American power before a single carrier group leaves port.Furthermore, the logistics of a Pacific war rely heavily on the Panama Canal. The commercial encroachments of Chinese firms in Panama have long worried Washington. With various Hong Kong-based entities holding interests in ports at both ends of the canal (Balboa and Cristóbal) the risk of closure during a crisis is non-zero. If the Canal is shut, the US Navy is forced to sail the long way around the Straits of Magellan. By removing Maduro, the US effectively breaks the northern arm of a potential Chinese pincer movement in the Caribbean.The operation, ostensibly framed as a law enforcement action against ‘narco-terrorism,’ serves a dual purpose. The indictment detailing 25 years of state-sponsored cocaine trafficking provided the legal veneer, but the timing reveals the geopolitical intent. This is the implementation of a new, muscular Monroe Doctrine. It signals a retreat from the role of ‘Global Policeman’ and a pivot toward the ‘Regional Fortress.’ The Trump administration has signalled that it may tolerate chaos in the Donbas or the Levant. Still, it will not tolerate a peer competitor establishing a forward operating base in the Americas.The fall of Maduro is also a sharp rebuke to the Kremlin, though less strategically damaging to Moscow than to Beijing. While Russia loses a platform for its own power projection and a rhetorical ally who validated Putin’s own authoritarianism, it is China that suffers the material loss. Beijing’s patient, expensive cultivation of influence has been undone in a night.Ultimately, those seeking the logic of this intervention in ExxonMobil’s balance sheets are looking in the wrong place. This was not about corporate profits. It was about the grand chessboard of the 21st century. The capture of Maduro was a preparatory move, a clearing of the decks in preparation for a longer game of great-power competition. The United States has decided that if it must face the dragon in the Pacific, it will not have it breathing down its neck in the Caribbean'.Written by Doug Stokes 4) 'Drugs are a problem but why attack Venezuela rather than, say, Columbia, and why pardon the Honduras President for sending cocaine to the US? Anyway, wasn't Fentanyl developed by a US pharmaceutical company who claimed it wasn't addictive, which sparked the addiction crisis; I don't think anyone involved in that scandal went to prison? I find it all inconsistent and puzzling!'That's because your thinking is prejudiced by TDS !Anyway perhaps Columbia is next !

John Hawkes ● 3d

There are a number of assumptions in your last post, Michael. 1) You seem to take it for granted that Bernie Sanders is right in saying Trump’s  use of military force to extradite Maduro is unconstitutional. Surely that is a decision for the Supreme Court. 2) International law is often invoked to condemn actions people disapprove of and ignored when they support them. So Trump is condemned for sending special forces to arrest Maduro but few voices were raised in 1999 when NATO bombed Belgrade. If, say, America had intervened in South Africa to end th3 apartheid regime, would you have protested?3) You assume that Mercia intends to steal Venezuela’s oil. As far as I know, they wish to work with the current regime to obtain c9mpensatiin for the assets confiscated by Chases and to develop oil production, which will also benefit Venezuela.4) The world is going to need oil for some time. I fear that in describing oil production as ‘bad economics’ you are falling into the same mindset as Mad Ed Miliband who thinks that green energy is going to lead to lower bills when in fact  under his stewardship the UK has the highest energy prices in Europe.5) Maduro and MBS are both unelected leaders. The difference is that Maduro, unlike MBS, has ruined his country econ9mically and Maduro, unlike MBS, is allegedly a narco-trafficker helping to flood America and other countries with illegal drugs. Trump has not overthrown Venezuela’s government. Maduro’s deputy has been sworn in to run the country.6) There is no evidence that Trump intends to take over Venezuela. He clearly wishes access to Venezuela’s oil and to prevent China from getting their hands on it. He also wishes to stem the flow of illegal drugs from Venezuela (and from Colombia and Mexico). But I imagine that he wishes Venezuela to transition to a democratic but pro-American form of government (like Argentina).

Steven Rose ● 4d

Irrespective of what our views are in Putney (London,  not Vermont), the debates in Congress will be interesting as not all Senators or House Representatives sem in agreement with the President:Senator Bernie Sanders (via X/ @SenSanders)1. It is illegal and unconstitutional. Congress did not authorize or even know about this military action.2. It will make the world less safe. If international law is ignored, any nation or terrorist organization can justify a violent attack by pointing to Trump's actions in Venezuela This was Putin's logic in Ukraine.3. It is blatant imperialism. Powerful nations do not have the egal or moral right to invade smaller countries to steal their natural resources. Venezuela's oil belongs to the people of Venezuela, not U.S. corporations.4. At a time when the entire world is moving away from fossil fuels for cheaper and non-polluting sustainable energies, protecting the interests of Big Oil is bad for the climate and bad economics.5. Maduro is corrupt and anti-democratic. So is MBS of Saud Arabia. So are manv other leaders around the world. Just because we do not like a countrv's leader does not mean we have the right to overthrow their government.6. Trump ran for president as a "peace candidate' who believed in "America First," not someone who was qoing to "run" another country. At a time when 60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, maybe he should try doing a better job running this country, not taking over Venezuela,

Michael Ixer ● 4d

"Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (US)@RepMTGI’ve served on the Homeland Security Committee for the past three years. I’m 100% for strong safe secure borders and stopping narco terrorists and cartels from trafficking deadly drugs and human trafficking into America. Fentanyl is responsible for over 70% of U.S. drug overdose deaths and fentanyl comes from Mexican cartels made with chemical precursors from China and trafficked across the U.S. Mexico border.Mexican cartels are primarily and overwhelmingly responsible for killing Americans with deadly drugs. If U.S. military action and regime change in Venezuela was really about saving American lives from deadly drugs then why hasn’t the Trump admin taken action against Mexican cartels?And if prosecuting narco terrorists is a high priority then why did President Trump pardon the former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez who was convicted and sentenced for 45 years for trafficking hundreds of tons of cocaine into America? Ironically cocaine is the same drug that Venezuela primarily traffics into the U.S. The next obvious observation is that by removing Maduro this is a clear move for control over Venezuelan oil supplies that will ensure stability for the next obvious regime change war in Iran.And of course why is it ok for America to militarily invade, bomb, and arrest a foreign leader but Russia is evil for invading Ukraine and China is bad for aggression against Taiwan? Is it only ok if we do it? (I’m not endorsing Russia or China)Regime change, funding foreign wars, and American’s tax dollars being consistently funneled to foreign causes, foreigners both home and abroad, and foreign governments while Americans are consistently facing increasing cost of living, housing, healthcare, and learn about scams and fraud of their tax dollars is what has most Americans enraged. Especially the younger generations. Boomers and half of Gen X will cheer on neocon wars and talking points, but the other half of Gen X and majority on down see through it and hate it.Americans' disgust with our own government’s never ending military aggression and support of foreign wars is justified because we are forced to pay for it and both parties, Republicans and Democrats, always keep the Washington military machine funded and going.This is what many in MAGA thought they voted to end. Boy were we wrong.As the baby boomers slip away both in votes and power, the electoral future will be decided for candidates that focus on American economic populism and promising prosperity for Americans only. As of right now, neither party is offering the solution.4:12 pm · 3 Jan 2026·6.8M Views

David Ainsworth ● 4d

It's unclear who your comment is aimed at. I'm certainly not anti-American. I admire the US's scientific establishments: NASA, NOAA, CDC, etc and their achievements and contributionsto the world'sknowledge. I've enjoyed visiting the fine museums in NY, San Francisco, Minneapolis, Miami, San Diego, Boston, Chicago, ... - and the Dali one in St Petersburg; I've have seen good concerts, opera and theatre there: US philanthropists have contributed much to the arts, not only in the US but also abroad. I also worked for a small US software company a long time ago and learned a lot from their business methods and ethics. I was impressed visiting Microsoft's campus in Seattle and HP's HQ near San Francisco to see US software innovation plans when I making strategic decisions several decades ago. I've a number of US friends - who, broadly, seem to share my views about the current administration; at least, none have admitted voting for President Trump, and the ones that post on Facebook have often been critical of various aspects of the current administration. Anyway, these things aren't binary; my US boss back in 1990 said he was a Republican as he supported their fiscal policies but wasn't keen on the social views: anti-abortion, etc. (He was married to someone who's parents immigrated from Mexico. Interesting, that back in the day many of my US colleagues were from second, or third generation immigrant families. )Let's be honest, NASA's JWST must be one of the greatest wonders of the modern world - although it wouldn't be at Lagrange point 2, and with an extended potential lifespan, without ESA's Ariane 5 space vehicle and its immaculately accurate launch - a great example of the importance of international cooperation. And for all its faults Microsoft helped revolutionised the world of IT; they certainly shook up IBM!So there's no rational reason why you should say I'm anti American; it's perhaps your own blinkered logic as far as I can see! Yes, ok, I'm no fan of the current US administration's science budget cuts, but you should take note of what some US scientists say :-) And I guess President Trump and his supporters use the term "TDS" because they fail to find logical arguments to support his policies?

Michael Ixer ● 4d