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Afghan Asylum Seekers Jailed For Raping 15 Year Old

Afghan asylum seekers who raped 15-year-old girl in park after she filmed herself being dragged away are jailed for 'horrific' attack.They were both named today following a legal victory by the Daily Mail. Small boat migrants Jan Jahanzeb and Israr Niazal, both 17, are facing jail for sexually assaulting the 15-year-old in a park in Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, on May 10.Two teenage Afghan asylum seeker have been jailed today for raping a schoolgirl who filmed them dragging her away screaming.Jahanzeb was jailed for 10 years and eight months, while Niazal was jailed for nine years and 10 months, with a deduction to reflect he was younger at the time of the offence.The young victim, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, bravely attended court with her mother to watch her tormentors be imprisoned.https://mol.im/a/15364309Why aren’t they being deported?!🤬

Sue Hammond ● 2d22 Comments

"Would you show support for the Conservatives in this matter to the same degree as you seem NOT to be concerned over the fate of the young girls."I do believe a while ago you critisized my style of writing.Rather ironic it seems, looking at your sentence above.

Michael Brigo ● 1d

Michael, the European Convention on Human Rights may not be immediately relevant in every case but there is no doubt that both foreign criminals and illegal migrants abuse the Convention to avoid deportation. This is even recognised by Keir Starmer, but rather than supporting the Conservative policy of withdrawing from the Convention, he proposes instead to disapply certain clauses, such as the right to family life, at least in the extreme interpretation given by the European judges. However  the government has not yet published its plan. There is no guarantee in any case that the judges of the European Court, many of them judicial activists, would allow the UK to disapply any part of the Convention. And it is not clear that Labour backbench MPs would agree to any derogation from the Convention.The ECHR seems to be a totemic issue for many on the left, uniting different strands of opinion. Remainers generally regard anything that begins with the word European as good and wise, regarding the prefix British as narrow minded and insular. Internationalists think that if the UK withdrew from the Convention  it would become a pariah state, forgetting that many vibrant democracies like Australia, New Zealand and the United States have not signed up to the Convention or anything similar. And the human rights lobby believe that if the UK withdrew , British people would no longer have any rights, forgetting that many,  if not all, of the rights detailed in the Convention have been enshrined in British law for centuries. Indeed the Convention was largely drafted by a British lawyer in the aftermath of the Second World War to reflect the traditions of democracies like Britain and France.

Steven Rose ● 1d

Ms HammondMore interesting yet shocking background to this abhorrent crime from the Spectator which shows it is very much not unique.The background of the perpetrators however is.'On 10 May this year a 15-year-old girl was with friends near parkland on the outskirts of Leamington Spa. Shortly after 9 p.m. she was separated from those friends and abducted by Jan Jahanzeb, a 17-year-old Afghan asylum seeker who arrived in the UK in January. The victim had the quick thinking to record the start and aftermath on her phone, so footage of the incident exists. As a result we know that while she was being taken away from her friends, the girl screamed for help, but Jahanzeb placed his hand over her mouth.From that video we also know that Jahanzeb called his friend Israr Niazal, another Afghan asylum seeker. During that call, conducted in Pashto, Jahanzeb said ‘Oh my god, I’m a Muslim in one minute’. (Does this mean he believes that raping a white non-Muslim girl enhances him in the eyes of fellow Muslims ? - JH)Jahanzeb was sentenced to ten years and eight months. Deportation papers have already been issued to him. Niazal received a sentence of nine years and ten months. According to his barrister, Niazal is still seeking asylum and intends ‘to make a life in this country after he has been released.’ (sic)Were this an isolated incident it would be horrifying enough. But of course, it isn’t. Yesterday, Croydon Magistrates’ Court sentenced Iraqi asylum seeker Hawre Mohamed to eight months in prison for sexually assaulting a 20-year-old woman at Horley railway station on 22 September. When Mohamed is released from prison in two months’ time he will be able to continue his application for asylum.Last month at Warwick Crown Court, Ahmad Mulakhil, an Afghan, pleaded guilty to raping a 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton.On 13 November, Amin Abedi Mofrat, an Iranian asylum seeker, was sentenced to nine years and six months in prison for the rape of a 15-year-old schoolgirl in Oxford.On 1 November Eid Anwar Fathi Najjar, an illegal migrant from Egypt, pleaded guilty to marching a woman out of a York nightclub and raping her in an alleyway.The list goes on.Every single one of these horrific crimes is not just a tragedy. Every single one of these crimes is entirely avoidable.As Rob Bates, Director of the Centre for Migration Control has said, ‘we know that the nationalities coming across on the boats are hugely overrepresented in crime statistics… These men should never have been in the country. The barbarism seen in Leamington Spa, and towns across the country are the direct result of an asylum system that extends every generosity and largesse to illegal migrants whilst viewing the safety of British citizens as nothing but an inconvenient afterthought.Every single one of these horrific crimes is not just a tragedy. Every single one of these crimes is entirely avoidable.That’s the truth. The British state, aided by activists and charities, is choosing every day to import men it knows pose a substantial risk of sexually assaulting, raping or even murdering innocent Brits. This is a the result of choices made by politicians, civil servants and judges every single day.This means that the state, along with its open borders mercenaries are ultimately responsible for every single one of these crimes. Never let them forget that'.

John Hawkes ● 1d

Starmer’s Labour are so good at Quick, Quick, Slow they should go on Strictly.  Quick, quick when they want an inquiry into Nigel Farage and possibly overspending at the last election, but Slow progress into a national inquiry into the rape gangs.

Martine Guy ● 1d

According to The Times “During the attack, the girl begged a woman passing by for help but the woman did not come to her aid.  She eventually escaped and was helped by someone who called the police”.

Martine Guy ● 1d

Two Afghan migrants are among four people charged with raping a teenage girl in Bristol home.The victim was allegedly attacked at a property in the St Werburghs area of the city on the night of November 29.Officers from Avon and Somerset Police were alerted the following day and two 16-year-old boys were arrested at the scene on suspicion of rape.One has since been released on conditional bail while enquiries continue. The three other suspects were arrested on December 4.Police said this week that Afghan national Salman Habibkheil, 18, of Lockleaze, has been charged with rape and arranging or facilitating the travel of a female with a view to exploitation.Fellow Afghan national Awal Amadzai, 18, of Redcliffe, has been charged with rape and sexual assault.All four people charged over the incident appeared at Bristol Magistrates' Court on Saturday. They were remanded in custody to appear at Bristol Crown Court on Wednesday 7 January. https://mol.im/a/15366767

Sue Hammond ● 1d

Mr Gulliford'I find it astonishing that these passers by aren't willing to step in and help. Especially Males.'1) Being accused and possibly charged with racial harassment.2) Recognising that these men were more than probably from a country with a culture where pulling a knife and stabbing someone is the 'normal' method of conflict resolution.

John Hawkes ● 2d

Mr BrigoBecause of its caveats (respect for family life is one I believe) then if we left the ECHR we would have more control over who is allowed to come into the country and who we could attempt to get rid of.'"I assume you will give as much support to the Conservatives as you seem to show concern over the fate of the young girls."Perhaps this attempt at irony is not well written.What I mean to say is that would you show support for the Conservatives in this matter to the same degree as you seem NOT to be concerned over the fate of the young girls.

John Hawkes ● 2d

Liam Neeson, the film Taken comes to mind.

Barbara Stevens ● 2d

Nick, I agree with your post.  Is this what we have become as a society that we ignore the cries for help from a young girl?  Why didn’t anyone ring for the police?

Martine Guy ● 2d

Didn't answer the question though as to how leaving the ECHR would fix the problem though did you?"I assume you will give as much support to the Conservatives as you seem to show concern over the fate of the young girls."Not sure this makes sense, would you like to try again?

Michael Brigo ● 2d

The sentences are far too short.In the full article I noticed that members of the public were asked/shouted for help by the young girl. I find it astonishing that these passers by aren't willing to step in and help. Especially Males.

Nick Gulliford ● 2d

Mr BrigoWhy is it that when most on this Forum (though I suspect not the West Putney Palestinian Liberation Front) are expressing rightful disgust and indignation concerning the actions of these Muslim illegal immigrant boat people, all you can do is to attempt to show how clever you are by deflecting away from the immediate issue with your self-indulgent comments on the ECHR.The Conservatives seem to have pledged to withdraw from this  now outmoded and irrelevant legal nicety.I wonder if and when Starmer and the Labour Party will support them.I assume you will give as much support to the Conservatives as you seem to show concern over the fate of the young girls.

John Hawkes ● 2d

Afghan national, 28, charged with raping two 14-year-old girls in a flat in BoltonSultani Bakatash, 28, was arrested in the early hours of Sunday following a report of rape in the Middle Hulton area of the town.He has been remanded into custody and was due to appear at Manchester and Salford Magistrates' Court at 9.45am on Tuesday. Both victims are being supported by specialist teams. Criminal proceedings are active and Greater Manchester Police (GMP) are urging the public not to speculate while the investigation continues. Bakatash has been charged with two counts of rape of a girl aged under 16, one count of sexual assault, and one count of assault by penetration.Both victims are being supported by specialist teams. Criminal proceedings are active and Greater Manchester Police (GMP) are urging the public not to speculate while the investigation continues. https://mol.im/a/15366623It will be interesting to know the residential status of this thing, ie is it another asylum seeker?

Sue Hammond ● 2d

How would leaving the ECHR resolve the issue of people throwing away their documentation?

Michael Brigo ● 2d

@MB as they threw all documents overboard when coming illegally into the UK there is no definitive age of the claimed younger one.  I understand this is now being re investigated as it is believed he has lied about his age.If they are so cavalier in disposing of legal documents why on earth are we paying to support criminals.

Robert Wheeler ● 2d

I think one of the worst cases I have read about this year was the rape of a 12 year old girl in Dover by 3 men who drugged and held her prisoner in their caravan.  She, thankfully, managed to escape, as they were talking about trafficking her abroad.  It doesn’t bear thinking about.  I struggled with reading about it, even the court case was harrowing reading about her mother’s tears in court.

Martine Guy ● 2d

The elder of the two has already been served deportation papers, the younger of the two (17) has not because by OUR rules, he is not old enough.That has nothing to do with the ECHR.

Michael Brigo ● 2d

This is the total problem with the ECHR.  Why on earth are we paying for criminals to abuse this.  This poor child, let’s remember she is a child, has a lifetime of suffering remembering this horrific act for criminal rights who entered our country illegally.

Robert Wheeler ● 2d

Normally when foreigners commit serious crimes, they are imprisoned and then deported upon completion of their sentence. Sometimes by agreement they are allowed to serve the remaining part of the sentence in their country of origin. But the European Convention on Human Rights can be used to block deportation. If the criminal can show that he would persecuted if returned to his homeland or if he has children in this country who would suffer distress, judges might prevent the deportation. That is why it is Conservativesm policy to withdraw from the Convention.

Steven Rose ● 2d

Don't let them in in the first place.

Barbara Stevens ● 2d

I totally agree.  They should be deported immediately!

Ivonne Holliday ● 2d