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Hello Jonathan and Steven,Thank you for your exchange of views.  It provides the perfect illustration of the difficulties the BBC has; it is either left wing biased or it is right wing biased.  So, all in all, taking this into consideration, it does provide a balanced view.  You cannot be biased in both areas at the same time.So, I would say Steven your second paragraph can be applied to the left-wing and right-wing at the same time.I also believe that many people, not just the left wing, believe that Trump exceeded his mark in his famous speech on the Ellipse on 6 January 2021.  As for the war in Gaza, their reporting always states at the very beginning that Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organization and they are not allowed into Gaza [by Israel]. Therefore, their reporting is based on information provided to them from contacts within Palestine.  I doubt they are knowingly chatting to Hamas; do you have proof of this?  Also, could you kindly let me know how you manage to watch BBC Arabic, please?I am not altogether sure how impartial Michael Prescott and Sir Robbie Gibb are.  We all agree that the excerpts of Trump's speech in the Panorama programme were a big mistake but there again, we are cannot watch the programme as it is off air, so we do not know what the introduction to the excerpts were or, in another words, the 15 seconds video shown widely is out of context.  And, surprise, surprise, it now transpires that Newsnight had a similar report shortly after Trump's speech.  It all happened over a year ago and we cannot corroborate either programmes........Do either of you consider yourselves impartial?  I am not too sure I am, but my views are based on what is right and what is wrong.  For example, the Environmental Act 2021 (under Boris Johnson) allowed the water companies to discharge sewage into the rivers and seas...  For me, that is blatantly wrong!  As was Trump's final paragraphs of his speech of 6 January 2021 when he did state "we will fight, fight like hell" or words to that effect.  That was very wrong too and words of a very bad loser.As far as Gaza is concerned, I have repeated endlessly maintained that the Hamas attack of 7 October was beyond horrific and unforgivable.  But I also say it is horrific how Israel has destroyed Gaza and has restricted humanitarian aid entering Gaza. This is inhuman too. 

Ivonne Holliday ● 7h

Mr Callaway'Nowadays, unlike 10 or certainly 20 years ago, the role of slavery in how Britain profited from its empire is much more emphasised and they clearly don't like that.'If it did, then Britain was not the only country or ethnic group that benefited.'The countries that benefited from the slave trade primarily include:Portugal: The most active European nation in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, using forced labor of Africans in their Latin American colonies. United States: The U.S. economy grew significantly due to the exploitation of enslaved people, particularly in the South. Spain: Participated in the transatlantic slave trade, particularly with the Spanish colonies. Dutch Empire: Became a major trader of enslaved people during parts of the 1600s. African Kingdoms: Nations like the Oyo Empire and the Kingdom of Whydah also profited from the slave trade by selling captives. These countries played significant roles in the global slave trade, benefiting economically from the forced labor of millions of Africans'. - WikiThe process was that African tribal areas had only one desired commodity to trade and that was their surfeit of people.The slave trade triangle, also known as the triangular trade, refers to a historical trade system that operated from the 16th to 19th centuries, involving three regions: Europe, Africa, and the Americas.European ships transported manufactured goods to Africa, where they were exchanged with Arab traders for enslaved Africans.Africa had a surfeit of people and thus dominant African tribes were content to sell their weaker brethren to these Arabs. The enslaved individuals were then shipped to the Americas, where they were forced to work on plantations producing sugar, tobacco, and other goods.Finally, these goods were sent back to Europe, completing the triangle. This system significantly contributed to the trans-Atlantic slave trade and had profound impacts on the societies involved'.Good three part BBC2 series on iPlayer 'A Black History of Britain', presented by David Olusoga covers this.

John Hawkes ● 7h

Hi JonathanI was unable to find the article by Rafael Behr. (Hopefully I have spelled his name correctly). As for David Aaronovitch, I am amazed he is still in a job after his ‘satirical’ advice to Biden to have Trump murdered. Presumably his employers at the ‘Observer’ are not too bothered if Trump gets assassinated. Of course if Aaronovitch had made a similar suggestion about a left wing or, heavens forfend, a black politician, I am pretty sure his feet wouldn’t have touched the ground as he was escorted off the premises.I think many people on the left are in denial about bias at the BBC, mainly because they share the same prejudices as the journalists. As a result, when they see a biased report on the television, they don’t even recognise it as biased. They regard it as factual rather than tendentious. It is not a secret that the majority of BBC journalists are of left of centre. It is not even surprising. The vast majority are university graduates and the polls suggest that graduates tend to vote for left of centre parties (i.e. Labour, Lib Dem or Green). What is surprising is that many of the journalists, particularly but not exclusively the younger ones, have lost sight of their duty of impartiality.If you doubt this, consider the issue of the ‘Panorama’ programme. I can understand that a couple of woke editors might have wanted to convict Trump of having deliberately incited the riot at the Capitol by splicing together different parts of his speech, rather like corrupt police officers used to tamper with witness statements in order to get a conviction against individuals they thought to be guilty when actual evidence was lacking. But how would you explain the fact that at the meeting last May called to discuss Michael Prescott’s letter, this dishonesty was justified by BBC managers as ‘normal practice’, an explanation accepted by the Director General and the Chairman who attended the meeting? My interpretation of this episode is that staff at the BBC were so imbued with contempt for Trump, they didn’t care whether they were in breach of journalistic standards or not. However a much more serious example of bias can be seen in the BBC’s coverage of the conflict in Gaza. The use by BBC Arabic of grossly anti-Semitic Hamas supporters to comment on the conflict was utterly disgraceful. One individual, who called for Jews to be burned ‘just like Hitler did’, appeared on the BBC Arabic service hundreds of times.  How was this allowed to happen? But what about footage shot by Palestinian journalists in Gaza which was regularly shown on the BBC News, often accompanied by a sombre voiceover from Fergal Keane? Why did the BBC never inform its audience that this footage was subject to Hamas censorship? In fact one never saw Hamas. It was as if the whole of Gaza was populated by innocent civilians. That is just one example of biased coverage.The BBC is an important part of British life. It has many good journalists, like Chris Mason, the political editor. But in recent years the Corporation has been undermined by the actions of ideologues whom managers have been unable or unwilling to restrain.  And rather than recognise the bias exposed by the report of the BBC’s own Editorial Committee, left-wing  journalists and politicians  have sought to impugn the integrity of Michael Prescott and Sir Robbie Gibb. They don’t like the message, so they attack the messenger.

Steven Rose ● 17h

Well, we can agree on one thing - Aaronovitch's remarks about Trump were very irresponsible and indeed pretty stupid for a serious journalist.As for the meat of his piece, which I do still think was a useful contribution, we are clearly not going to agree.  Anybody who offers an opinion does so from their pre-existing position on the political spectrum and so it can get very predictable.  You still insist that the BBC has been "captured by ideological warriors".  I simply don't buy that, and I suspect such a view can only come from someone who themselves has been captured, rather like Matt Goodwin, by the ideologies of the right.With this current furore, I have to ask, who is most pleased with the turn of events, and are they pleased just because the BBC has cocked things up (again) or because this is another, perhaps the best, opportunity to take the organisation down?  In other words, cui bono?Just a couple of points:- try googling "BBC pro Israel bias" and you will see quite a few sites that insist the BBC is pro-Israel: Middle East Eye,  Open Democracy, Business & Human Rights Resource Centre, Middle East Monitor, Al-Jazeera.  Now I expect you will in turn criticise these sites for their own biased stance, which in a way proves my point about the polarisation of public debate.  But there are plenty of people out there who genuinely believe the BBC, under the guise of "balance", displays pro-Israel bias.It is an immensely difficult job to provide genuine balance in a polarised world and while the BBC tries and mostly succeeds, there are far too many people who want it to fail.  What then? To quote Joni Mitchell "you don't know what you've got till it's gone".  A world where the news comes only from outlets with strong political views is surely not to be welcomed.- the "distinguished academics" represent campaigns such as History Reclaimed who are trying to push back against the re-evaluation in recent years of our imperial history.  Nowadays, unlike 10 or certainly 20 years ago, the role of slavery in how Britain profited from its empire is much more emphasised and they clearly don't like that.  I wonder how many of them got involved in that campaign group trying to stop the National Trust's alleged "wokeism", Restore Trust.  Yet another front in the culture wars.Did you also read the other article, by Rafael Behr?You spelt Aaronovitch wrong throughout, by the way.

Jonathan Callaway ● 21h

I have read Aaronovich’s article twice through, Jonathan, following your recommmendation.Let’s start with David Aaronovich himself, someone who on 1 July last year tweeted, ‘If I were Biden, I ‘d hurry up and have Trump murdered on  the basis that he is a threat to America’s security’. Donald Trump was the victim of an assassination attempt 10 days later. Aaronovich subsequently justified his tweet as ‘satire’.  Do you think a comment like that gives one any confidence in Aaronovich as a reliable commentator on any matter relating to Trump? I would describe his tweet  as hate speech, worthy of a visit from the police.Aaronovich makes several unsubstantiated accusations against Michael Prescott in the course of his article:1) He asserts that Prescott’s letter was ‘probably’ intended for public consumption. No evidence is provided for this assertion. In fact Prescott received the original report from the Editorial Committee last January when it was also made available to the Board. For three months nothing happened. In April  Prescott summarised its contents in a letter to the Board. His letter was discussed at a meeting in May where his allegations of bias at the BBC were largely dismissed. Even the distortion of Trump’s speech was condoned as ‘normal practice’. Frustrated by the BBC’s failure to tackle the problem of bias, Prescott finally sent a copy of his letter to MPs last summer. The ‘Telegraph’ only obtained a copy last week. Rather than seeking publicity, the evidence suggests that Prescott patiently observed confidentiality until the inaction of the BBC forced him to blow the whistle, and  even then not to the newspapers but to Parliament.2) Aaronovich accuses Prescott of ‘constantly and selectively’ referencing the independent report on bias produced by the BBC’s Editorial Committee, chaired by David Grossman.  Aaronovich’s use of the word ‘constantly’ in this context is absurd. Of course Prescott quoted Grossman’s report extensively. He actually commissioned the report from the Editorial Committee. What other source should he have used? As to selective quotation, Aaronovich provides no evidence that Prescott deliberately omitted material  in the report that was favourable to the BBC. 3) Aaronovich concedes that Prescott was right to object to the distortion of Trump’s speech, though he fails to emphasise that the Chairman of the Board and the Director General, who were present at the  meeting in May  when the issue was discussed, accepted  the view that the edit was ‘normal practice.  But then Aaronovich basically accuses Trump of having inspired the riot in any case, precisely the mindset which let to the dishonest edit. 4) Aaronovich dismisses  Prescott’s charge that the BBC failed to point out that Trump’s opponents  were engaging in a  form  of ‘lawfare’ during  the election campaign. Aaronovich implies that lawfare’ was a partisan slur propagated by  Republicans. Well whatever you think of Trump, and I am not an admirer, there is no doubt that Trump’s opponents tried to use the legal system to prevent him running.  What  other word than ‘lawfare’ can be used to describe this (failed) strategy?4) Aaronovich ignores the  appalling fact, revealed by Grossman’s report  and highlighted in Prescott’s  letter, that BBC Arabic  consistently  employed  virulently anti-Semitic Hamas supporters to comment on the conflict in Gaza.  The work of the Arabic  service was particularly praised by the Director General.5) Aaronovich  also accuses Prescott of  omitting to mention the fact that the  BBC has been accused of bias by pro-Palestinian groups. This is in fact untrue. Prescott did mention this fact but said that the Editorial Committee could not find a single example where Israel’s conduct of the war was glossed over or its actions condoned. Can you, Jonathan, think of any such example?6) Aaronovich admits that the BBC indulged in the fashion for transgenderism but accuses Prescott of exaggerating the problem. He provides  one example , the BBC’s work on the Tavistock Clinic, to counter the accusation but does not deal with the evidence that a  desk within the BBC consistently prevented criticism of transgender rights.7) He dismisses the complaint that the BBC consistently adopts an anti-colonial stance . He rubbishes the work  of distinguished academics (mentioned by Prescott) who  have sought to defend,at least in part, Britain’s imperial  past, describing these historians as right wing Brexiteers. A prejudiced view, no?

Steven Rose ● 1d

Jonathan, I was not trying to compare the late night parties at Downing St with the beer and pizza gathering at the Durham Labour constituency office. I was comparing the treatment of Boris Johnson with the treatment of Keir Starmer. The accusation against Johnson is that he lied to the House of Commons when he said that no rules were broken during lockdown. He wasn’t lying. When he made that statement he didn’t know about the late night parties such as the one that took place when the Queen was mourning her husband. He was referring to the gatherings in the garden at Downing St at the end of the day which he believed were within the rules. People working together all day had a right to have something to eat and drink on the premises, especially when many of them would return to their desks in the evening. In the same way Keir Starmer was not lying when he said that the beer and pizza gathering in Durham was within the rules. Party workers who had been in the constituency office all day were having something to eat and drink, after which many of them returned to work. Lockdown rules in the workplace were simply impractical.The conspiracy theory that Prescott and Gibbs are part of a right wing plot to bring down the BBC is false and, I suspect, a deliberate distraction.  Gibbs did not force Tim Davie’s resignation, as David Yelland, former editor of the ‘Sun’, has alleged.  According to Mark Urban, a highly regarded journalist, formerly the BBC’s diplomatic correspondent, the Chairman of the BBC told Tim Davie last week that he still retained the confidence of the Board. It was Tim Davie’s decision to resign following a series of scandals on his watch, the last one being the transmission of Bobby Vylan’s anti-Semitic rant at Glastonbury. Michael Prescott was not the author of the criticisms regarding bias at the BBC. The bias was revealed after an investigation by the BBC’s Editorial Guidelines Committee, chaired by David Grossman. Michael Prescott summarised the results of this investigation in a letter to the Board which was discussed at a meeting last May. BBC Management largely rejected these criticisms. Jonathan Munro, the global editor of BBC News, now the most senior person left in the BBC, actually defended the ‘Panorama’ programme at this meeting, arguing that the misleading splice of different parts of Trump’s speech was ‘normal practice’. Frustrated by the BBC’s reluctance to accept reasonable criticism, Prescott sent a copy of his letter to MPs in the summer, which the ‘Telegraph’ obtained last week.As Kemi Badenoch has said, the BBC  should be treasured as a national institution, but it needs to start a process of renewal by showing humility and learning from its mistakes rather than blaming others. So far BBC Management have shown precious little humility for having caused monumental embarrassment to this country.

Steven Rose ● 2d

1) it is almost impossible to exaggerate Johnson’s flaws. They have been exhaustively covered by his house master at Eton, his biographers such as Tim Shipman and Antony Sheldon, various people he has worked for, eg Max Hastings, many current and former Tory MPs, the cross party Commons Privileges Committee and no doubt many others. So don’t worry about a few Putney folk who’ve also taken against him. Equating Johnson's blatant Partygate lies to parliament, and his and his team's blatant behaviour in Downing Street with Kier Starmer's working beer and pizza while visiting a constituency is clearly clutching at some very thin straws.  A very vivid memory from those times was the picture of the Queen mourning her late husband alone in church, the morning after a particularly raucous party in Downing Street.Amongst the very few plus points about Johnson was his early support for Ukraine.  However his first reaction was to warn against excessive "Russophobia" in parliament. Good that he changed his mind but the UK government on his watch was still very slow to sanction the numerous Russian oligarchs living in the UK.2) Two of Johnson's appointees at the BBC, Gibbs and Prescott, are at the heart of the current furore. Is this coincidence? Was there an “internal coup” or a "coordinated right wing plot"?  Some people obviously think so and yet again opinion divides along very familiar lines, with no real interest in either side listening to the other.

Jonathan Callaway ● 2d

There seems to be an outbreak of JDS (Johnson Derangement Syndrome) in Putney. Its symptoms are 1) a tendency to exaggerate Boris’ flaws and 2) a willingness to ascribe all our present ills (including, it would seem, bias at the BBC) to his premiership. On 2) above, sanity alert, Boris has nothing whatever to do with biased news coverage at the BBC. This is entirely due to the fact that parts of the BBC have been captured by ideologues who feel they have a sacred mission to impose their views on Trump, Gaza and trans rights on the viewing public while an arrogant and complacent Management have declined to restrain them. On 1), the criticism of Boris is unduly harsh. The main charge against him is that he lied to the House of Commons. In my opinion the decision of Privileges Committee, composed largely of political enemies, was unfair. The rules regarding lockdown in the workplace during the pandemic were ambiguous and effectively unworkable. Boris no more lied to Parliament when he defended the Downing St garden parties (not the late night parties which took place without his knowledge) than Keir Starmer lied when he said that the beer and pizza gathering in Durham was within the rules. Any balanced judgment of Boris Johnson’s premiership should also take into account two other factors. First, by negotiating  a withdrawal agreement from the EU, he rescued the country from the dangerous political paralysis into which it had been thrust when a largely Remainer Parliament had attempted to block implementation of the Referendum. He also took the decision before the invasion to supply arms to Ukraine (which some EU countries refused to do), thereby enabling Kiiv to withstand the initial Russian push.

Steven Rose ● 4d

I disagree with you Stephen, once again.I have just heard that Tim Davie has resigned.  Cumulatively he has presided over too many editorial lapses though we must remember when he was appointed by the previous government he was viewed with suspicion in some quarters given his past association with the Tory Party (in Hammersmith & Fulham).  Johnson at that time was also trying to stuff the BBC board with his appointees.Anyway, to state that "the BBC have been captured by ideological warriors" is frankly an ideologically motivated statement in itself.The reporting by all parts of the press of the Jan 6 riots and Trump's many utterances at the time was unequivocal in condemning his actions and his incitement of the crowd.  Even the Telegraph at the time reported it in detail and echoed that view: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/us-capitol-riot-trump-supporters-2021-protest-what-happened-died/When the BBC programme came out a year ago there was no reporting in any of the press, that I can find anyway, suggesting faulty and certainly not deliberate editing of Trump's speech.What I find disturbing about this latest episode is that both the Times (who used to employ Michael Prescott) and the Telegraph (to whom his report was leaked) have managed to whip up such a storm about this that the government has felt it necessary to react and essentially echo their criticisms. Talk about ideological capture!  These two papers - and the Mail of course - are driving a dangerous agenda which they have been pursuing relentlessly for years - the destruction of the BBC as a public service broadcaster.  The BBC is obviously imperfect and reform to the way it is funded is probably inevitable, and Nick Robinson and John Simpson are right that editorial standards have slipped in recent years.  However, they are also right that there is a concerted campaign in the aforementioned papers, and more generally by those on the right of politics to undermine the BBC.Personally, I find that extremely worrying and I find it worrying that this government has found it necessary to parrot the very same arguments.  Yes, serious mistakes have been made but in that regard some of these papers should hold up a mirror to themselves for once.

Jonathan Callaway ● 5d

It’s clear that parts of the BBC have been captured by ideological warriors so certain in their beliefs that they think any move to promote their cause is justifiable, whether or not it compromises their duty of impartiality under the BBC Charter.  So they have no qualms about doctoring Trump’s speech or paying the son of a Hamas official to narrate a film about Gaza or ignoring women’s concerns about the invasion of female spaces by biological males. And they have to be allowed to get away with this ideological warfare by a complicit BBC Management. For example, Jonathan Munro, the global director of BBC News, defended the ‘Panorama’ programme, saying than the misleading editing of Trump’s speech was ‘normal practice’. The mindset this demonstrates is similar to that of corrupt police officers who fabricate evidence to fit up suspects whom they believe guilty of the crime. In this case the BBC believed that Trump wanted to incite a riot at the Capitol but lacking conclusive evidence they simply doctored his speech.It is not true that no one noticed the dishonesty of the ‘Panorama’ programme for a year. Concerns were raised by the BBC’s Editorial Committee at the time and repeated by the BBC’s independent advisor. It was the reluctance of BBC Management to deal with this and other instances of bias that prompted Michael Prescott to publish his complaint.It is frankly absurd to claim that after a year it is no longer possible to corroborate Mrichael Prescott’s complaint about ‘Panorama’. The transcript of the misleading representation of Trump’s words and his actual speech are readily available.It is also disingenuous to pretend that only the right wing press are concerned about this issue. The Culture Secretary, Lisa Nandy, the cross-party Culture Media and Sport Committee and Ofcom have all registered their concerns. Tonight the Director General and the chief executive of BBC News have resigned and tomorrow the Chairman of the BBC is set to apologise to MPs for the Corporation’s failings.

Steven Rose ● 5d

Omg Ivonne I cannot believe you are still trying to defend your beloved corporation when it is currently being investigated by Ofcom over various misdemeanours and allegations of bias.  Just last month Ofcom sanctioned the BBC over its documentary ‘How To Survive A Warzone’ - concluding that the programme was materially misleading for failing to disclose the narrator’s father’s role in Hamas.  Subsequently the BBC had to make an on-air apology.  Ofcom Investigation (Gaza Documentary):Ofcom, the UK's communications regulator, previously opened an investigation into the documentary Gaza: How to Survive a Warzoneafter it found the programme breached the BBC's editorial guidelines on accuracy.  Ofcom ruled this was a serious breach and the BBC accepted the decision in full.  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c629j5m2n01oEven your other bastion of truth🙄 the Guardian, reported the following on 3rd Nov:“The BBC has been accused of selectively editing a Donald Trump speech to make it appear clearer that he encouraged the US Capitol attack, according to a former external adviser to the corporation.An edition of Panorama, broadcast a week before the US election, spliced together clips of a Trump speech made on 6 January 2021. The spliced clip suggested that Trump told the crowd: “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol and I’ll be there with you, and we fight. We fight like hell.”The words were taken from sections of his speech almost an hour apart. It did not include a section in which Trump said he wanted supporters “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard”.Concerns about the cut were raised in a memo by Michael Prescott, a former independent external adviser to the BBC’s editorial guidelines and standards committee (EGSC). He left the role in the summer.The dossier, first reported by the Telegraph, said the programme made Trump “‘say’ things [he] never actually said” by cutting together footage.The complaints relate to an hour-long Panorama special called Trump: A Second Chance? broadcast in October 2024. The memo also complained that footage of marchers who appeared to have been inspired by Trump was actually taken before the speech had been made.In a covering letter to the dossier, which he sent to the BBC’s board, Prescott reportedly said he was circulating the document out of “despair at inaction by the BBC executive when issues come to light”.Prescott said in his report: “It was completely misleading to edit the clip in the way Panorama aired it. The fact that [Trump] did not explicitly exhort supporters to go down and fight at Capitol Hill was one of the reasons there were no federal charges for incitement to riot.”https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/nov/03/bbc-accused-selectively-editing-trump-clip-capitol-attackHow much more evidence do you need?

Sue Hammond ● 5d