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Steven,You seems to suggest that the UK can police the world when the reality of a safe space in Wandsworth is a 2mx2m gazebo outside Clapham junction weather and staff permitting.You also seem to suggest that the UK is in a fit state to take part in a war despite it not being able to secure it's borders.Now should I listen to the pro war lobbyist that was funded by these countries recently - that they now seem opposed to or should I make my own mind up?I think if the UK wants to take the European view then perhaps staying in the EU would have made sense.Equally if you do not want to take an anti US view then it's probably wasn't a good idea on spending all that money on a US nuclear deterrent.Personally I do not see any UK interests in various actions which seem to go against international law being it a greater Israel or the destruction of Yemen on the request of the Saudis.In short you are telling me that those that have taken foreign money and sold the UK short for decades now have the UKs interests at heart. I don't think so.Where was the preparation for this long anticipated war? What next, asking the Chinese to send us goods so we can go to war with them?The reality of the UK unless you have been asleep for decades is it can not even make it's own steel.Let's just remember it was Thatcher that imported Soviet coal to close the UK mines down which has had a direct impact on our energy securitySo now the Russians are bad Russians having been bad then good then bad ..The Afghans are bad having been bad, good then bad.The US are now bad having been bad then good now bad.The Europeans are now good having been good, bad now good.I could go on but forgive me in thinking perhaps it is the UKs view that is changing before going to war with whatever country whilst at the same time importing their energy!

Ed Robinson ● 67d

Mr CarterAs regards Gaza, BBC News reports more growing discontent by civilians over the the actions of the big brave balaclavered blokes of Hamas.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c175z14r8pro"Anti-Hamas protests on rise in Gaza as group's iron grip slips"'Public criticism of Hamas is rare, with protests violently dispersed and opponents jailed, tortured and killed - this protest took place in Beit Lahiya in northern Gaza on 26 March."Out! Out! Out!"The voice in the Telegram video is insistent. Loud. Sometimes musical.And the message unambiguous."All of Hamas, out!"On the streets of Gaza, more and more Palestinians are expressing open defiance against the armed group that's ruled the strip for almost 20 years.Many hold Hamas responsible for plunging the tiny, impoverished territory into the worst crisis faced by Palestinians in more than 70 years."Deliver the message," another crowd chants, as it surges through Gaza's devastated streets: "Hamas is garbage.""The world is deceived by the situation in the Gaza Strip," says Moumen al-Natour, a Gaza lawyer and former political prisoner who's long been a vocal critic of Hamas.Al-Natour spoke to us from the shattered remains of his city, the flimsy canvas side of the tent which now forms part of his house billowing behind him."The world thinks that Gaza is Hamas and Hamas is Gaza," he said. "We didn't choose Hamas and now Hamas is determined to rule Gaza and tie our fate to its own. Hamas must retreat. "Since Hamas took control of Gaza in 2007 by violently ousting political rivals, a year after winning national elections, there have been three major wars with Israel and two smaller conflicts."Humanity demands that we raise our voices," al-Natour said, "despite suppression by Hamas".Hamas may be busy fighting Israel, but it's not afraid to punish its critics.At the end of March, 22-year old Oday al-Rubai was abducted by armed gunmen from a refugee shelter in Gaza City.Hours later, his body was found covered in horrific wounds.The Palestinian Independent Commission for Human Rights said Oday had been tortured, calling his death "a grave violation of the right to life and an extrajudicial killing".Your thoughts ?

John Hawkes ● 68d

Hello Lucille,Apologies, I did not mean to be so curt but friends arrived unexpectadly and I pressed submit by mistake.We talk about Hamas attacking Israel on 7 October 2023.  What they did was and continues to be totally unforgivable.  Please, do understand - and I have repeated this constantly - I do not defend nor condone Hamas by any stretch of the imagination! What I am saying is that Hamas attacked Israel on 7 October 2023 and carried out the most despicable and unforgivable acts.  It was a terrorist attack and not a prolonged and extensive military operation.  The difference between an invasion and an attack is that Hamas did not try to control Israel in the same way that Russia has been doing with Ukraine since February 2022. Was Israel right in repelling the terrorists?  Without a shadow of a doubt.But the subsequent attacks on Gaza by Israel have also been terryfing and equally unacceptable.  The photographs Michael Brigo posted today at 16:34hs about Rafah in 2021 and 2025 illustrate the point perfectly. It was decimated.  As you know, I disagree with Nethanyahu's policies and have done so for some time. Something you agreed with at one point well before the 7 October attack.How do you fight terrorism?  My goodness, an impossible question to answer.  I was brought up in my early teens in a country that had terrorism.  The difference there was that it was political terrorism and not based on religious differences.  Different times, different tactics but I survived an attack on a train I was travelling on (terrorists on one side and military on the other) as well as snippers on a building when I was in a taxi.  From what I experienced all those moons ago to what I am learning about the Gaza war now, I can say that neither side is totally wrong and neither side is a totally correct. Of course I cannot defend the attack of 7 October 2023.  Neither can I defend the decimation and destruction of Gaza.  I repeat myself, not all Palestinians that live in Gaza are part, followers or supporters of Hamas.  What Richard was trying to highlight is that attacks happened on Palm Sunday (beginning of Passover) both from Russia and Israel.  Both attacks were despicable, moreso in such important dates.  Nothing to do with the size of country or area. I hope I have explained myself properly.  Thank you.

Ivonne Holliday ● 77d

Ms Holliday'Hamas attacked Israel in October 2023 but did not invade it, at least not in the scale of Russia invading Ukraine'.How far into another country's territory constitutes an invasion ?If Nazi Germany has simply landed at Dover, killed, raped and kidnapped just a few British citizens and encroached no further, would this have denied the UK the right to fight to repel them ?'Israel has one of the strongest armies in the world and their intelligence is also very highly ranked.  They did admit, however, that they "dropped their guard down on 7 October 2023".Gaslighting and victim shaming again Ms Holliday."It's Israel's own fault".Totally irrelevant to the case against Hamas attacking Israel.'As far as I understand it, not many have been launched by Hamas recently'.How many do you think Hamas should have been allowed to launch before Israel had a right to respond ?I am glad Churchill was not in a position to need ask for your advice before planning to defend London against Nazi German V1 and V2 missiles. 'And there are some that wish Gaza to become the Riviera of the Middle East......'.Even you must know that this was a stupid plan from Trump which no one took seriously.On the other hand perhaps some Gazans might support this plan as at least it would give them some peace and more to the point a meaningful job.'not all Palestinians agree with Hamas'.Especially those that have Hamas terrorists living next door.And what actions are they taking to curtail their brutal activities ?I have not read much about such and how successful they have been.Perhaps they are waiting for the next Gazan General Election to express their views. 'while there is a clear victim in the Russia-Ukraine war, it is not so clear cut in the case of Israel and Gaza'.Says you !"There Are None As Blind As Those Who Will Not See".Just be honest and answer the questions I posted earlier.

John Hawkes ● 78d

Mr Wheeler'It infuriates me that posters cannot see the difference between two Sovereign states fighting for survival.  Ukraine was invaded by Russia, Israel was invaded by Hamas'.Most people can.It is only the anti-Israel/Jewish posters that claim to see a similarity: the faux condemnation of Russia (yet ignoring the genocide by Arabs in Sudan) giving them cover to maintain their continual attacks on Israel.Israel, unlike Russia viz a viz Ukraine, is under attack by a terrorist Palestinian organisation Hamas and is fighting a war for survival against this group which has the avowed aim  in its Charter of annihilating Israel and its Jewish citizens.Hamas, an organisation which, and I know repetition of this fact embarrasses and irks many anti-Israel/pro-Palestine fellow travellers, was responsible for the pogrom against Israel last October and still holds Israelis and Israeli corpses in its underground bunkers.And it is an organisation that has no qualms over imbedding its troops amongst civilians in hospitals and schools etc. with the obvious understanding that some will suffer as collateral damage in its war with Israel as the latter takes them on in its battle for survival.Such will of course gain sympathetic comment and support from the naïve and gullible who cannot see through the true aim of this Hamas tactic. Hamas let us not forget is also a UK government proscribed organisation - "A proscribed organisation is an organisation or group that is illegal to join or show support for, because it has been identified as being concerned in terrorism. Proscription is the banning of an organisation based on an assessment that it commits or participates in, prepares for, promotes or encourages, or is otherwise concerned in terrorism. Proscription sends a strong message that terrorist organisations are not tolerated in the UK and deters them from operating here".Something Mr Carter and his cohorts Ainsworth, Brigo and Holiday choose to ignore, in their fanatical hatred of Israel - perhaps at their peril ! Supposed concern for civilian casualties to my mind is bogus as little concern is ever shown for those that happen to be Jewish.Concern for Palestinian casualties is perhaps just propaganda fodder with no real concern for the civilian casualties, as I fear is true of the many anti-Israel posters on this Forum.Why don't the West Putney Palestinian Peoples' Front get to the point and spell out -1) if they believe Israel has the right to exist as an independent state within its internationally recognised borders ?2) if they believe it is legitimate for Hamas to continue to ignore this right and continue to attack them as has been happening for months ?4) if they believe Israel has a right to defend itself from such attacks ?4) if they have an understanding of what Hamas is fighting for, which if granted would cause it to stop attacking Israel ?5) if they think the tactic of Hamas to involve civilians in their means of warfare is legitimate and not a war crime ? I look forward to reading responses to the above as it will help me understand why they are so anti-Israel; verging even perhaps on demonstrating antisemitic sentiments.

John Hawkes ● 78d

Hello Robert,First and foremost, Hamas attacked Israel in October 2023 but did not invade it, at least not in the scale of Russia invading Ukraine.  Hamas attack has been, and continues to be, condemned by many on this Forum, including me - very vociferously! The issue of hostages is unforgivable.Israel has one of the strongest armies in the world and their intelligence is also very highly ranked.  They did admit, however, that they "dropped their guard down on 7 October 2023".Of course Israel wants the rockets stopped.  As far as I understand it, not many have been launched by Hamas recently.  I may be wrong.  But there have been many air raids by IsraelBut many Israelis wish to settle by the coast in Gaza as it is so beautiful....  And there are some that wish Gaza to become the Riviera of the Middle East......One thing I will also maintain very strongly is that Hamas is in Gaza but not all Palestinians agree with Hamas.  It is a bit like saying that all Northern Irish were part of the IRA. No!In Gaza, the level of destruction is horrific and, contrary to Ukraine where parts of its country have been invaded by Russia, Hamas has not invaded Israel.  Israel is destroying Gaza.  Since leaving Gaza in 2005, Israel has controlled the Strip and implemented an indefinite blockade of Gaza in 2007.  The current blockade prevents people and goods from freely entering or leaving the territory, leading to Gaza often being called an "open-air prison".  Egypt also imposed a blockade of Gaza in 2007.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_StripUkraine is fighting for survival because it was invaded and is a victim of aggression by Russia.So, in all, Ukraine has been invaded, Israel has not.  And, while there is a clear victim in the Russia-Ukraine war, it is not so clear cut in the case of Israel and Gaza.

Ivonne Holliday ● 78d