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A mad, mad world ...

Interesting that this person could differentiate between a Palestinian and an Iranian out of the context of the middle eastern; worrying that such an idiot is allowed to carry a firearm ... the threat within that VP Vance was referring to?https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/florida-man-arrested-after-shooting-2-israelis-says-he-thought-they-were-palestinians/

Michael Ixer ● 625d9 Comments

If weapons are available to idiots they will use them.  In Europe and the UK it is knives and cars as weapons of choice.  Vance was referring to the enemy within Europe and the UK.  Many migrants have not been integrated into Society and play to extremism.  Since Starmer took office in July over 25,000 illegal migrants have arrived to the UK, no homes, no schools and no clear deterrent to stop the flow.

Robert Wheeler ● 624d

That is exactly what Vance was referring to.  The enemy within forming their own network to potentially plot terror attacks.  All illegal immigrants must have their mobile phones confiscated for analysis, with no exceptions.  All those that have already arrived with phones should have had them taken away, but I suspect there is probably a clause in the ECHR regs that prevents this.

Sue Hammond ● 624d

Um, the person involved wasn't an immigrant.

Michael Brigo ● 624d

My point was obviously it's all very well Vance saying Europe has issues but it seems the US has it's own problems that need addressing. How do we know migrants' phones aren't analysed? I suspect they aren't as the police probably don't have the capacity internally, or the budget to use external security specialists who are often used.

Michael Ixer ● 624d

Of course Michael I - police can’t do anything but we could immediately return them to France.  If they are illegal they are illegal, close the legal gap.  Denmark manages to immediately return illegal migrants.Michael B.  Extremism happens on those raised within a society and those from outside it.

Robert Wheeler ● 624d

Who are you referring to?  I was not referring to one particular person.

Sue Hammond ● 624d

My apologies, as this thread was about a specific incident I was assuming that logically you would be responding to that.

Michael Brigo ● 624d

Agree with Sue, all phones should be looked at, you do not know what they are planning. Also it will give more info on who they are, what contacts they have on their phone, who they know here already.

Barbara Stevens ● 624d

personally I feel there's a lack of understanding about technology here. It's very easy to communicate without an actual telephone. Neither Signal nor Telegram (I think) need a mobile phone number and there are plenty of other messaging apps available.

Michael Brigo ● 624d