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"All this fellow traveller support does is to encourage a victim culture amongst Palestinians which acts as an excuse to stop them pulling their fingers out and building a democratic and economically viable nation state."There is a "victim culture" because the Palestinians are being victimised, over the decades."Parched: Israel’s policy of water deprivation in the West BankIsraelis, including those living in settlements, use an average of 247 liters of water a day per person – three times the quantity used by Palestinians in the West Bank, which amounts to 82.4 liters a person. In Palestinian communities that are not hooked up to the water grid, average daily water consumption is a mere 26 liters per person, much like the average in disaster zones.""The Israeli apartheid regime works to promote and perpetuate Jewish supremacy in the entire area it controls from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, through land and immigration policies, movement restrictions and – as this report shows – management of water resources. Within this single water sector, the regime deliberately creates a huge disparity in consumption. One group enjoys the luxuries afforded by a first-world water superpower, its lifestyle effectively impervious to weather conditions and climate change. The other – Palestinian subjects – suffers a chronic water crisis that stands to grow along with climate change.This policy clearly demonstrates the profound dehumanization Palestinians have undergone in Israeli society – a process that has enabled Israel to use the most basic of resources as a means of control and achieving political goals, even at the cost of keeping millions of people thirsty. This dehumanization also enables the systemic, cruel campaign to deprive the most vulnerable Palestinian communities in the hottest, most arid parts of the West Bank of their water sources, even in the blistering heat of summer, so Israel can rob them of what little possessions and land they have left and take over as much territory as possible, all in order to continue its settlement project and the dispossession of Palestinians."https://www.btselem.org/publications/202305_parched

David Ainsworth ● 54d

As I said "Unlike the Zionists in Palestine.""Zionism is an ethno-cultural nationalist movement that emerged in Europe in the late 19th century and aimed for the establishment of a Jewish state through the colonization of a land outside of Europe. It eventually focused on the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, a region corresponding to the Land of Israel in Judaism, and of central importance in Jewish history. Zionists wanted to create a Jewish state in Palestine with as much land, as many Jews, and as few Palestinian Arabs as possible." (Wikipedia)Zionism - late 19th century. Jews - at least 3,500 years earlier."It is a common misconception that all the Jews were forced into the Diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in 70 CE."Yes, the Jewish Diaspora began quite a long while before the Romans even appeared.When would you say that Jews were no longer the majority in the Holy Land, Mr Hawkes?"The Crusaders massacred many Jews in the 12th century".Yes, they did. There were large massacres of Jews by the Crusaders in Europe. Muslims and Jews united to defend Haifa and Jerusalem in the First Crusade. They were defeated and the Christian Crusaders slaughtered most of them, I believe."Oh and yes you might also try reading the Bible."You repeat this but you give no reason at all why.""Myths and Facts - a guide to the Arab-Israeli conflict"; Mitchell G Bard". "Recommended reading for those that want to argue on fact not prejudice".Nobody here of that description.We all have our facts and we try to select them carefully. Don't we, Mr Hawkes?

David Ainsworth ● 54d