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I think poor understanding is at the root of this, including poor understanding of the English language.Some people seem to think that "Sweet Caroline" is the English national anthem. It isn't. It isn't even an english song, having been written by Neil Diamond, an American. On super Saturday, in 2012, at Wembley, the adopted UK anthem was "Hey Jude". At least this is an English song, written, published and recorded by English people, though it isn't the national anthem either (don't mistake me for a fanatical nationalist, I'm happy for the English team to win at the direction of a Dutch coach).Others, or very often the same people seem to find Commonwealth Games victories "unbelievable". Well if they don't believe them, they should really just move on."Pride" according to the internet is"a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired"and to Wikipedia"Pride is emotional response or attitude to something with an intimate connection to oneself, due to its perceived value. Oxford defines it as "the quality of having an excessively high opinion of oneself or one's own importance".I think there is a lack of precision in the understanding of all these terms which gives rise to many of the confusing comments (and singing) currently being heard.Nevertheless, the opportunity to feel an immense swelling of pride simply from sitting in a chair and shouting at the television set is not to be sniffed at - provided the subject is willing to accept responsibility for everything else associated with their country of origin.Which is why I prefer to be able to pick and choose.

Michael Winstanley ● 1045d

Michael and Matt have both given you an explanation about current procedures which I will save repeating.Customs and border procedures have changed very much since 1973. I don't think a comparison with the systems in place nearly 50 years ago is very helpful to any of us. I do seem to remember it took quite a long time to get through borders in general, much longer than it does now. There was little cooperation between countries so one had always to go through two sets of processes - one for each country. There are still borders in some parts of the world where this happens - you queue up to have various officials stamp you out, cross a no-man's land then queue up for a 2nd set of officials to stamp you in.When the new UK/EU border system comes in in 2023 (or later if it is delayed) UK passport holders will simply pay a fee and the checks will be streamlined. The fee is another Brexit bonus, along with the new restriction on us spending time in the Schengen zone, the limitations on what we can carry with us and the requirement to prove we have enough money to pay our way.It remains to explain all the people on LBC. I didn't listen to the program - LBC is a rant channel not a news channel; it employs professional ranters, not journalists. I wouldn't place any reliance on anything I heard on it. Plenty of people make statements without having a clue what they are talking about - it is much the same on LBC as on forums such as this one. No further explanation should be required.

Michael Winstanley ● 1053d

Sue. There may be some bloody mindedness on the part of the French but I think the time taken is totting up the number of days where there are a number of stamps. (When I was making a number of business trips to Norway back in the 1970s I had similar delays as my number of days were restricted; that was nothing to do with the EU.) I can't remember the rules going into France pre EEC membership - I have a feeling they may just have been identify checks. However, the agreement with the EU is now as with other third party countries we can only be in the EU for 90 days in ever 180 day period (which is more restrictive than the US where you can stay for six months come out then, as far as I know, go back in for another six months provided you can prove you're not working there). Restrictions on musicians,etc working in the EU are even more restrictive but it's what our government agreed to.Ivonne. The passport checks for Eurostar and Eurotunnel passengers travelling to the EU were originally instigated in the UK to provide seemless travel once one had boarded the train to avoid a second pause in travel after leaving the UK; you effectively enter the Schengen zone once you're on the train. So require no further border checks or delays.I have to say the French border staff at St Pancras seemed to be working effectively when I went to France earlier in the year, it was still taking longer than a quick ID check but the queues weren't as large. Interestingly, the Covid pass checks did add to delays as they were being scanned while we waited for the passport checks. I understand that once the new ETIAS visa waiver system is operational train and air travel passport controls may should be faster by there are concerns car and bus ferry and tunnel travel could be slower if passengers need leave vehicles to use biometric checks ...

Michael Ixer ● 1054d