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10 year child death at Putney leisure centre yesterday

Under The Nuremberg Code - experiments in which the risks outweigh the benefits, without informed consent - is a breach and schools, including Putney and Wimbledon  High and vaccine centres all over the country have been served notice for  “jabbing” with these mRNA products while providing no informed consent.Reminder:1) NO healthy child i.e. without underlying conditions, anywhere has died “of covid”;2) adverse effects - stroke, myocarditis, neuralgia, side aggressive cancers (an exponential rise) and… death - from the “jabs” - due to stronger t-cell amd antibody immunity (think two operating systems fighting each other) - increase with *decreasing” age (told to me personally by Dr Richard Ennos, of the Finchley Clinic, formerly of Edinburgh University);3) myocarditis in children particularly, in fact, boys, after the “vaccine” was warned against, to no avail, by myriad doctors (www.hartgroup.org);4) the injections (“jabs”) - novel mRNA technology developed out of experimental oncology treatment - are still *in trial* until 2023. They do not meet any legal definition to qualify as “vaccines”;5) *all* deaths ”of covid” are based on a PCR test that detects… nothing except, perhaps, dna debris in the body (https://odysee.com/@GrandJury:f/Grand-Jury-1-EN:0 )6) *any* death, even from gunshot wounds, “within 28 days of a positive (pcr) test” is certified (doctors and hospitals worldwide paid for said certification, as they are paid - £12.50 per jab - to vaccinate) as “of covid”. Deaths within *48 hours* of a vaccine are denigrated as “coincidence”;7) NO coronavirus vaccine had ever been successfully developed in trials over the 20 years prior to 2019 (and consequently no vaccine brought to market), as all animals in the trials … died of anti-body dependent enhancement (ADE) ie they got covid - and their immune system was so degraded by the “jab” that they died.  Sound familiar - got covid after getting “the jab” (nod. 1,2,3,4…? All within a year)?;8 ) Pfizer tried to embargo for 75 years its covid trial results, as those results - crippling illness and death - just released, were so bad no one would have approved their use;9) “covid” has a recovery rate in *all ages, even without treatment* of 99.97%. In children it’s 100% (www.thescriptbook.co.uk)10) early / treatments - cheap, out of patent ivermectin; HCQ with zinc; NAC and vitamin D -.have been *ruthlessly* suppressed and trials manipulated to ensure death (Chris Whitty) by the US CDC / NAIHD and UK NHS  - and doctors promoting them fired and censored - in favour of a “vaccine” (the only way out”) and “groundbreaking, Pfizer (of course) treatment drug;11) “covid” has never been isolated based on either Kochs postulates or any other metric (people, including me, may have got sick or died but very few from a virus / “of covid”);12) Pfizer has the biggest corporate fine for lies and medical / corporate malpractice in history; 13) Moderna was a failing company that had never brought *any product* to market until Fauci, not a doctor, bankrolled it to produce his”covid “vaccines”;14) based on a reporting rate of just 10%, there are now 40,000 deaths related to the “vaccine” in the Eudravigilance database and 3 million injuries; similar levels reported to the US VAERS; “third world” - mercifully largely unvaccinated for covid at least - unknown. The swine flu vaccine - a real one - was withdrawn after 53 deaths (follow the money).15) there is no such thing as “act like iou have it” - asymptomatic spread. I’m a trial of -0m people in Wuhan last year no one spread covid without … symptoms;16) Notwithstanding any of the scone fhe EU has implemented vaccine passports (to facilitate the digital identity:  https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/emea/eu-vaccine-passport-paves-way-digital-identity-pitfalls-lie-ahead) as the U.K. government forges ahead with the AI “digital identity” being trialled right now all across…Ukraine (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-digital-identity-attributes-trust-framework-updated-version)17) The multi billion ££££ (our money) gov.uk “Mindspace” brainwashing and fear campaign, otherwise known as abusive coercive control, has clearly done a stellar job (https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/MINDSPACE.pdf).www.hartgroup.orgwww.thescriptbook.co.uk www.brownstone.orgwww.Pandata19.orghttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/girl-dies-putney-leisure-centre-cardiac-arrest-unexplained-metropolitan-police-b995087.html

Lydia Tapping ● 1151d65 Comments

Perhaps the companies who advertise above the BS that these idiots post might like it drawn to their attention as to what they are condoning. Allan Fuller for example.

Freddie Francis ● 1140d

As there seems to be no human editor running this site, with respect to the family of the child who tragically died at PLC can I suggest, again, that this thread should close. Its totally despicable for Brown or anyone else to express their anti vaccine views under the above heading.

Jane Carter ● 1140d

@theefitor or whatever other negligent numskull runs this site and forum - kick these moronic idiots out.

Freddie Francis ● 1140d

@PaulStill waiting for your comments on that trailer...

Matt Palmer ● 1140d

Well said, Lydia. You are right to bring to people's attention the damage that the death shot is causing. It's never been about saving lives - quite the opposite. The same applies to masks and lockdowns. The whole covid response has been nothing but an all round attack on humanity under the guise of help & care, which mugs have fallen for; and there are plenty of them.

Michael Brown ● 1140d

... and there she goes again. "Sorry, but I'll just stick the boot in again under the guise of an apology". Lydia, no-one is looking to 'censor' you - the point is your post was offensive, insensitive and had no place on this thread.

Roy Robart ● 1141d

The point is, Lydia, that you used this tragic event to promote your agenda on a purely speculative and irrelevent basis - let alone your insensitivity towards the poor girl's family. I'm not vaxxed but I wouldn't use that status to spam any tenuous thread I can find.

Roy Robart ● 1141d

Ok Matt Will report back with a new topic chatting about your link. ’First wave national geographic’Time to end this page as people are getting understandably upset.Chat later. P

Paul Beer ● 1147d

Good idea. Let’s all move on, tempers are high and no middle ground. Best P.

Paul Beer ● 1147d

Indeed. If I was one of the parents I might not be responsible for my actions. I’d be taking action against the site owners as well.

Freddie Francis ● 1147d

Please can Paul and the other anti vaxxers give their thoughts under another heading/start a new thread. It is totally insensitive, actually sick, to link their views with the tragic death of a child at PLC. Can you imagine what it must be like for her family?

Jane Carter ● 1147d

I watched this documentary the other day - it's extremely sobering. I highly recommend watching the trailer if nothing else.https://films.nationalgeographic.com/the-first-wavePaul - can you give your thoughts on this - all fake?

Matt Palmer ● 1147d

Its impossible to give figures to you.So basically Paul, you are making if up.

Andy Pike ● 1147d

Sue, your question ‘Without the vaccine’.Have pointed out in many earlier posts, all covid data has been manipulated to create unlawful lockdowns and scare us into participating in  pharmaceutical companies back by government experimental vaccination program.  The question millions want to know, ‘ How many have  died or suffer vaccine damage. Sue totally respect you opinion  but when we rely on government controlled media and statistics, it’s impossible to give the figures you have requested. Best P

Paul Beer ● 1147d

Well for any forum reader that needs you as a style guru, you have managed to draw further attention to it. Thanks for that.

Michael Winstanley ● 1147d

"What on earth has it got to with China you silly pillock"Nice abusive post. Best ignored.

David Nugent ● 1147d

What on earth has it got to with China you silly pillock. In China this trivial little site would not exist and nutters like you wouldn't be able to post your nonsense anywhere on the internet. In China I would not have to criticise PutneySW15 because it would not exist. I celebrate the existence in the UK of such facilities, where any ignorant tosspot is allowed to make a total tool of themselves without the authorities taking the slightest interest. Fill your boots.

Michael Winstanley ● 1147d

@Freddie 18.08I just did. Obsessive is an understatement, brainwashed more like.  Lydia Tapping's posts are incredible and I don't mean that in a good way.

Sue Hammond ● 1149d

Lydia. You still have not answered my hypothetical question. So I will try it in another way.  Without the Covid vaccines do you think the number of deaths over the last 21/2 years would have been lower or higher?  Another hypothetical question but I am sure you have an opinion.

Sue Hammond ● 1149d

It’ll come as no surprise the dubious members who’ve been posting their ideology have revealingly obsessive Facebook pages. Just search their names, if you dare, and see what obsessives they really are.

Freddie Francis ● 1149d

“On reflection on my post, given that the family will be grieving, I'd have waited a week or so and posted this in a different context.” But you didn’t and still you carry on with your five-star bol**x. You are beyond hope.  The owners of the heap of dung of a website are asleep at the wheel.

Freddie Francis ● 1149d

Sue, please see my response to your first, also patronising, question some days ago.Covid 19 diagnosis (no autopsies allowed) was based on a PCR test run at way over the recommended thresholds including the NHS of 25CTs. It was also a test that was never intended to diagnose illness. In the US gunshot wounds were declared covid deaths (hospitals and doctors are paid for each covid death - around 10k per certification) based on the PCR test. It is the whole premise of Reiner Fuellmich, trial lawyer who won other fraud cases against Deutsche Bank and VW (emissions) here: https://odysee.com/@GrandJury:f/Grand-Jury-Day-3-en-online:7So the "deaths within 28 days of a positive test" - if you check back the BBC and every news channel announced the deaths with those words every day on the news - are based on a test that picks up nothing but old DNA in the body. In other words, a covid death is not necessarily a covid death.  And the survival rate is 99.97%Putting that aside, lets go with your hypothesis of "millions of deaths" of covid ("within 28 days of a positive, test", remember). Those could have been prevented with safe, effective, proven (but crucially out of patent ie not very profitable. Now, suddenly Pfizer has the only available therapeutic, apparently) - Ivermectin (check Dr Pierre Kory's appeal to congress or Dr Tess Lawrie - the UK Bird Group) and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and zinc - both Dr Simone Gold and Dr Zev Zelenko prescribed these for their patients and NONE of those patients were hospitalised.Yet the US CDC and NAIHD (Fauci) and the health authorities here and in many countries, blocked their supply and application in favour, only of Remdesivir and intubation (both fatal) and in some cases manipulated trials (Whitty here in an HCQ trial) results.  Leading to many losses of life.

Lydia Tapping ● 1149d

Sue,How is that you think my written post was "copy and paste" (except, obviously, to the links to evidence. None of the baying detractors have provided any evidence to support their replies. Or do you not think supporting evidence is important. For example, the evidence produced by the UK Government for masks - there was none?)?The POINT is that proven, safe, patented therapeutics - ivermectin (proponents: Dr Tess Laurie, the UK Bird Group, Dr Pierre Kory, US ICU Doctor) HCQ and Zinc (Proponents: Dr Simone Gold - Americas frontline doctors / Dr Zev Zelenko - none of whose patients were hospitalised) - could have saved lives. But instead an experimental, still in trial until 2023 - check the MHRA website and manufacturers info., inoculation was promoted which, to date, has resulted in Europe alone (you can check the Eudravigilance database - or Dr Henrietta giving evidence to the Grand Jury here: https://odysee.com/@GrandJury:f/Grand-Jury-Day-4-online:4)  in 40,000+ deaths and over 3 million injuries. Almost all unnecessary given the recovery rate (Dr Simone Gold) from covid of 99.97% in all age groups even without therapeutics/medication.Sarcasm and patronising is not a conversation... it's the lowest form of debate. Nor will help anyone.

Lydia Tapping ● 1149d

Lydia, hypothetical question for you.  If the Covid vaccines which have been approved by the MHRA and monitored by the JCVI had not been used how many millions would have died here, and in the world, do you think? "The MHRA is globally recognised for requiring the highest standards of safety, quality and effectiveness for any vaccine. It has responsibility in law to continuously evaluate all products on the UK market.Following COVID-19 vaccine approval, the MHRA has in place a robust and proactive safety monitoring strategy which allows for near real-time safety monitoring at population level.What is the JCVI?This committee is an independent group of experts who advise the Government health departments in the four UK nations on immunisations and the prevention of infectious disease. They consider vaccine safety, efficacy and look at the impact and cost effectiveness of immunisation strategies."https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2020/12/02/the-roles-of-the-mhra-and-jcvi-in-covid-19-vaccines/

Sue Hammond ● 1149d

Paul. Within the law of defamation, hate crimes, etc you or I should be able to express our or your views freely, even if they're wrong - at least until the online safety bill becomes law - but I would just say it's distasteful to link this child's unfortunate death to your cause when we don't have any facts about the incident. 

Michael Ixer ● 1149d

Hi Lydia, thanks for putting out your articles to bring awareness regarding the side effects from the trial vaccines.You are clearly a very intelligent lady and have spent much time researching.You are absolutely correct in that no children without an underlying condition are in danger of this disease, and therefore it is totally unnecessary children taking the vaccines.Unfortunately there are many people in high places that have an ulterior motive to get the needle into as many people of all age groups as possible, as it is a money making scheme, for those that have contacts and shares in the Pharmaceutical industry. Many doctors and medical experts that have spoken out like you are getting cancelled on social media but I believe the narrative is starting to shift, and more of the general public are now starting to see through the hypocrisy and lies.There have been a few brave souls speaking out regarding family members being injured or worse on this forum over the last 2 years, and it is sickening how little empathy there is on this forum from the usual suspects. They really are a heartless bunch on here.I also have had 2 persons in my own family affected by the vaccine side effects, and my elderly mother who has a huge cirle of friends has many many sad stories to tell since the vaccine roll out has started.Surely both sides of the story should be told so people can then make a informed decision based on all date, but this continual cover up of the potential side effects from the vaccine by the MSM and government is disgraceful.Keep speaking the truth, If you stop just one parent from jabbing their child it will be worth it.

Tim Wood ● 1149d

Michael, The government knows that people can’t read anything “too long” so that’s why they use simple brainwashing techniques like “hands-face-space” to coerce . It’s all set out in their mindspace document put together by highly paid, private enterprise-resourced behavioural scientists (who have latterly admitted that the techniques were highly unethical): https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/MINDSPACE.pdfNevertheless they achieved their aims so who cares, eh?

Lydia Tapping ● 1149d

On reflection on my post, given that the family will be grieving, I'd have waited a week or so and posted this in a different context.Sadly the Evening Standard which has promoted the "jab rollout" in 3-page spreads without once providing the context of risk from death from covid (.03% and 0 in children) or that the jabs are novel, in trial, mRNA technology, was not so mindful.For me, having spent a year along with many others trying to stop the roll out of "the jab" - which are emergency authorised use only and still (all of them) in trial until 2023; and on the back of death of a close friend and two 16 year olds presently in hospital in similar circumstances and one 21 year old with life changing injuries after the jab) and a known raised risk of myocarditis in children: https://www.hartgroup.org/covid-19-vaccination-in-children/, this was too much to hear.The JCVI itself has ruled against the roll-out but was over-ruled by the government. This is because once on the US vaccine schedule for children, the COVID jab manufacturers will be given complete immunity for any adverse effects, including death.It's a pity that world economic forum member and chief shareholder of UK Genomics PLC, Matt Hancock, "forgot" to tell parliament in March 2020 that covid had been downgraded from a non-high incidence disease (HCID)- so an emergency  vaccine would never have been needed while old, cheap available drugs - Ivermectin (UK Dr Tess Lawrie, The Bird Group and US Dr Pierre Kory) and HCQ + zinc (administered by Dr Simone Gold and Dr Zev Zelenka none of whose patients were hospitalised) - which are perfectly save in all age groups could have been administered instead of being purposefully withheld.Having not read all the comments (having endured two years of abuse even when I had recovered from covid.. for going for a jog), I've nevertheless been told their are comments about my name. Lydia is a biblical Hebrew name meaning "seller of purple".As regards "the Code" it is actually bound into the constitution /  our code of medical ethics and includes;1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. 2. The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, 8unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not randomand unnecessary in nature.85. No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; 6. The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by thehumanitarian importance of the problem to be solved 8. The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified personsMy deep sympathies to the family.

Lydia Tapping ● 1149d

On reflection I'd have waited a week or so. Sadly the Evening Standard which has promoted the "jab rollout" in 3 page spreads without once providing the context of risk from death from covid (.03% and 0 in children) or that the jabs are novel, in trial, mRNA technology was not so mindful.For me, having spent a year along with many others trying to stop the roll out of "the jab" - which are emergency authorised use only and still (all of them) in trial until 2023; and on the back of death of a close friend and 2 16 year old and one 21 year old (one with life changing injuries after the jab) and know raised risk of myocarditis in children: https://www.hartgroup.org/covid-19-vaccination-in-children/My deep sympathies to the family.

Lydia Tapping ● 1149d

Michael, This is not China … get a grip.

Paul Beer ● 1149d

But you "don't believe in censorship"...

Lydia Tapping ● 1149d

I live in Putney (SW15 when I last looked).  I provided a number of links including to hartgroup.org (UK doctors, scientists and statisticians) and pandata19.org (worldwide alliance of doctors, statisticians and scientists) and all my other facts can be coroborated on that or any other website eg. Children's Health Defense, brownstone.org. Whereas "ill informed crap" is just rhethorical opinion. But "you don't believe in censorship"

Lydia Tapping ● 1149d

If it comes across that way then I regret that.

Michael Winstanley ● 1149d

It will not be removed because this is a low-rent site with few readers, little income and not much moderation, if any. It is thus vulnerable to cranks; some post more regularly than others.

Michael Winstanley ● 1149d

Festina lente?

David Ainsworth ● 1150d

Oi Editors. Can someone remove this BS and ban this unsavoury individual please?

Mark Phillips ● 1150d

And yet a day later it's still there.Quod erat demonstrandum.

Simon Knight ● 1150d

"I asked for removal of the post yesterday"Agree. Me too. Also acknowledged.

David Ainsworth ● 1150d

I also don't agree with censorship but as you say it's factually unsubstantiated. I would add that Lydia has merely used this platform to spout her ill-informed crap (would be surprised if Lydia is even a SW15 person).The powers that be on this site are spineless when it comes to clamping down on inappropriate postings. Shame on them!

Simon Knight ● 1150d

I don't agree with censorship or the cancel culture but it's factually unsubstantiated and I've contacted both Lydia and the editor. Tick, tick, tick ...

Roy Robart ● 1150d

A penny gets you a pound they won't remove it.

Simon Knight ● 1150d

I asked for removal of the post yesterday.not on the basis of the daft vaccine agenda but on the basis it is entirely inappropriate to link this childs death with the vaccine, and it's hi jacking of such an awfully sad occurrence. It's been acknowledged let's see what happens.

Andy Pike ● 1150d

Piggybacking on this tragic story to promote a dubious agenda. They (who know exactly who I mean) should be ashamed of themselves. It’s disgusting.

Freddie Francis ● 1150d

You make a good point Roy.I think this is why there are mainly only a handful of people on this forum who comment.It's like living in an echo chamber.Anyone with a differing opinion gets called names, a great example the post from Carter who is the worst of the worst at name calling if you don't agree with his #woke posts!

Tim Wood ● 1150d

This posting is entirely inappropriate in response to an extremely sad event. We do not have any details relating to the incident so should not speculate. Although I'm usually for free speech I agree in this instance that it would be best if this post was removed; the poster might want to reconsider another post without referring to the incident of which I assume they have no more knowledge of than the rest of us?

Michael Ixer ● 1150d

With respect, Michael, you just jumped on your own bandwagon ...

Roy Robart ● 1150d

First off, the original post was highly inappropriate for making ungrounded assumptions about the poor child's cause of death - but mainly because it showed no consideration for a grieving family who don't need to be thrown into a vaccine debate if there was even the remotest connection.That said, others have used this thread as an opportunity to denigrate people who made a choice not to be vaccinated. "These deluded fools" is not the sort of dialogue that reflects respect for other people's decisions.Lydia's post should be taken down ... and, along with it, those trying to score cheap points.

Roy Robart ● 1150d

"Having attempted to engage with these deluded fools in the past I would say there are only two strategies that work - ignoring them or ridicule."Much though I'd like to agree with you, David, my experience is that even ridicule doesn't work: these people seem to have an armour-plated ability to resist any kind of argument that runs counter to their beliefs, however deranged: because they "know" they are right. And when you know you're right, anything that counters that belief is blanked out. Once you're down that particular rabbit hole, all appeals to reason are hopeless.  I think there really is only one way to deal with conspiracy fantasists,  which is simply to ignore them, totally. "Don't feed the trolls" is the best advice I've seen.

Richard Carter ● 1150d

Tim, MP Christopher Chope is a hero amongst the majority of MP’s who refuse to stand up and debate the issues.

Paul Beer ● 1150d

Also too long to bother.As soon as I see the "Nuremberg Code" mentioned at the beginning, I can almost guarantee a splurge of anti-vax pseudo-scientific nonsense will follow. Authorised vaccines are not "experimental". People who come out with this stuff display a marked ignorance of the issues and of the terminology they employ.In the circumstances of this tragic and unrelated death, this piece of bandwagon jumping is also in astonishingly poor taste.

Michael Winstanley ● 1150d

So many people on this forum that just believe and follow the MSM narrative, and couldn't possibly think for themselves.Anyone that questions the narrative just gets shouted down by the sheep.If they don't agree with you post, they just call it a conspiracy theory.If they don't like what you say they will shout you down and bully you off the forum!

Tim Wood ● 1151d

Choose record of blocking worthy Bill's is that of someone losing his marbles so hardly a shining light for democracy or free speech.

Andy Pike ● 1151d

"This poor child's death may be unrelated".As you cannot possibly know of any such relationship, then you should have resisted your compulsion to post your material upon what is an unrelated subject.

David Ainsworth ● 1151d

Having attempted to engage with these deluded fools in the past I would say there are only two strategies that work - ignoring them or ridicule.Two strategies that definitely do not work are trying to reason with them or trying to suppress what they have to say. They are immune to any sort of logic and any removal of their nonsense confirms their view of a world which believes most of us are involved in a conspiracy against them.

David Parker ● 1151d

This poor child's death may be unrelated but there needs to be a public debate about the side effects these vaccines are causing for some people, instead of Westminster and the media covering it up.Tory MP Christopher Chope has been trying to start a debate on the side effects of the vaccines, but keeps getting shouted down by the horrible #woke mob of MPs who just want to bury the debate.Any parents must be mad putting this injection into their healthy children.No children without an underlying condition die from this disease.We were told the vaccines were for the elderly and the vulnerable and that's the way it should have stayed.

Tim Wood ● 1151d

This is a post that is wrong on so many different levels...

Ben Rainbow ● 1151d

Why does the editor allow these people to post on here?

Simon Knight ● 1151d

Ivonne, it's not you that needs to apologise but Lydia Tapping, for her wholly inappropriate post. Please, Lydia, go away and take your conspiracy fantasy with you.

Richard Carter ● 1151d

A totally insensitive and inappropriate post.

Ivonne Holliday ● 1151d

Apologies for the double post!

Ivonne Holliday ● 1151d

A totally insensitive and inappropriate post.

Ivonne Holliday ● 1151d

@Lydia. That was the most shameless load of BS. Take your codswallop elsewhere. Tapping by name, Tapped by nature.

Freddie Francis ● 1151d

"Lydia, I think your post is inappropriate at the moment when the grief is so raw."Agreed. Really inappropriate.

David Ainsworth ● 1151d

Lydia, I think your post is inappropriate at the moment when the grief is so raw.

Martine Guy ● 1151d

@LydiaAnd your point is? YOUR point, not a copy and paste job please.

Sue Hammond ● 1151d