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UK - USoA

So no trade deal then with the good Old USoA - no real surprises, they have been milking our industry now for decades the latest to come to light being the debacle over CO2 production. More of our industries are at stake, but who cares - we have a PM who is confident of the easiest trade deals in history and has promised us £350m per week for the NHS when, as we now have, left the EU, or was that just tosh (lies to those who don't understand the meaning of tosh!). Astro-Zeneca is now to build a giant plant in Dublin curtesy of our ever tactful nasty-party MPs having a spat with them. What was it our ever truthful PM once said about industry - I know it was something along the lines of F*** Industry I believe - and thus it comes to pass.

Clifford Cowell ● 1874d33 Comments

Or in fact any trade deals of any worth..

Matt Palmer ● 1874d

The US haven’t done any deals yet so why the worry,  it’s never say never, would this have altered my Brevit vote?  The Cptpp is more important because that is where future growth is and joining that is already in progress. 

Robert Wheeler ● 1874d

Let's be honest who would want to trade here or build factories here when we have pratts sitting in the middle of motorways, dressing up as f...ng strawberries and glueing themselves to buildings. !!

Andy Pike ● 1874d

The promise of trade deals replacing the economic benefits of free trade with the EU now lost through Bexit was always an enormous lie. There are only 3 economies of sufficient size to make a difference (USA, China, India). A comprehensive trade deal with any of them, for various reasons, was never going to happen. The announcement made today is not really news.Those still willingly hoodwinked will now point to tinier economies such as Australia and Peru, wittering at the same time about their growth rates. Some time around the year 3000, those markets will have grown sufficiently to fill in the gap.

Michael Winstanley ● 1874d

@MichaelWBetter to drive forwards and take advantage of opportunities than to sit and whinge  about a decision taken democratically 5 years ago.

Robert Wheeler ● 1874d

Who's sitting whinging? I realised 5 years ago what the implications were and took appropriate action. The "opportunities" talked about for the UK were largely illusory. I therefore drove forwards and shifted the bulk of my investment portfolio overseas. This has produced handsome rewards whilst prospects for the UK continue to disappoint. I find it highly amusing that after all this time people like you are still making these ridiculous statements about the opportunities from trade deals. When will you ever learn?

Michael Winstanley ● 1874d

Good point Andy!Reliable/cheap electricity supply is probably another requirement to run a factory!The UK's energy prices have always been higher than most of our competitors over the years.Lack of long term strategy/investment and regulation over decades!As for Brexit a bit of compromise between the remainers and brexiteers would have got us a better deal!

Ed Robinson ● 1874d

But a trade deal doesn't make Americans do either of these things more than they would otherwise, what it does is enable Americans to sell us stuff they have manufactured and grown more easily.

Michael Winstanley ● 1874d

XR has a very healthy presence in virtually all modern countries Andy :) So us strawberries will be blocking roads and glueing on the world over.Perhaps Insulate Britain will inspire people to start their own groups too.

Matt Palmer ● 1874d

Then put candidates up for election and do it the right way. With all the other problems of Govt to think about as well.

Andy Pike ● 1874d

Yeah yeah. You shifted the bulk of your portfolio overseas. And all after the referendum.What a fine investment analyst you are. As if. And smug to boot. Just another remainer who can't get over you lost.And now you hate your country. Sad stuff.

Paul Rolink ● 1874d

Top work on diverting a thread on the failures of the gov to achieve any of their brexit targets (apart from blue passports) to talk about XR again Andy.The slow but relentless decline of the UK continues, energy crisis, food/lorry driver shortages and the gov lumbering from one u-turn to another.Still it must all be XR's fault! Let me guess, the fact that we regularly have the highest daily covid infection rate in the world is our fault too??

Matt Palmer ● 1874d

No answer then on democracy and getting elected. Enough said

Andy Pike ● 1874d

So our 34000 is bigger than 100000in usa or 36000 in brazil.Sums dont add up again Matt

Andy Pike ● 1874d

You still confuse single issue pressure groups with political parties. XR and IB don't have any illusion that they can govern the country better or have a comprehensive set of policies which will benefit the electorate (unlike the Tory Party). These groups are agitating for the government that we HAVE elected to take particular actions. There is nothing particularly novel about this, such groups have existed for centuries. Slavery abolitionists, votes for women groups, CND, to give just a few examples, none of them were expected just to shut up until they'd obtained a majority in a general election.There is nothing "undemocratic" about protest, indeed to object to protest in principle is undemocratic in itself. The issue with IB is the nature of the protests they are making.

Michael Winstanley ● 1874d

I said 'regularly', not every day.

Matt Palmer ● 1874d

population of US : 320 millionpopulation of Brazil: 211 millionpopulation of UK: 66 millionso being third in the world for infections today is pretty impressive! Well done Boris!

Matt Palmer ● 1874d

Did you do percentages at school Andy?

Michael Winstanley ● 1874d

Yes I did  but Matt said highest number not percentage. Responding to stated point not attempting to interpret it.

Andy Pike ● 1874d

i said 'regularly', not every day....sigh

Matt Palmer ● 1874d

Actually he said "highest infection rate". Now how would you compare an infection rate across populations of different sizes? The only interpretation required there is an understanding of and application of elementary arithmetic.

Michael Winstanley ● 1874d

Ooh teacher how clever you are......

Andy Pike ● 1874d

That response is childish, what a shame Andy, I've always thought of you as someone worth engaging with, compared to Barbara for example who's just a little bit bonkers sometimes (most of the time)

Matt Palmer ● 1874d

Oooh Andy, how ungracious you are when caught in an error.

Michael Winstanley ● 1874d

Oooh Mr Winstanley, what a smug b@st@rd you are.

Sue Hammond ● 1874d

Matt, if Andy has gone on the same wave length as me bonkers, then at least he see's the funny side to some of the posts on here. Because most times they are a joke. I feel a strawberry about to come out of hiding.

Barbara Stevens ● 1874d

Blind belief in the free market will turn us into the 51st state.  Totally crazy selling everything off and then being asset stripped or held hostage.

Philippa Bond ● 1874d

I have a variety of fruit outfits if you want to borrow one!

Matt Palmer ● 1874d

You get up so early to post random and pointless abuse. I expect you take pride in your efforts to make the world a better place.

Michael Winstanley ● 1874d

Sometimes one's just got to smile and read the Daily Ma ... sh https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/britain-facing-long-hard-winter-of-it-not-being-brexits-fault-20210923212350

Michael Ixer ● 1874d

meanwhile two incompetent fools continue to argue about which one of them has exclusive rights to a 115 bedroom house.

Matt Palmer ● 1874d

Well, Matt, one wouldn't expect anything better from members of the current cabinet: obviously just there for their own benefit and self promotion ... 

Michael Ixer ● 1874d

"Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband"David Cameron, 4th May 2015#poststhathaventagedwell

Matt Palmer ● 1872d