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Yvonne Johnson had the votes the opposition votes were not needed it was very clear at the time."politics vs the interests of the country"I have said before that I do not believe any of the party leaders have put the country before politics. This was no different. After all it was Starmers Brexit position (despite evidence at the time) that played a significant part towards Johnson's majority.The whip for the Brexit vote was more to do with putting water between Starmer and his previous Brexit position and the so called red wall IMO."...if he'd abstained he would probably have been accused of indecision"I take the simple view that if you vote for something you can't then give ifs and buts later. You should own it or admit it was a mistake. You can't have it both ways. If you can't vote for something or against it then you can abstain which is a valid position in such circumstances."..The main thing is to highlight the corrupt procurement and lobbying activities of the current government and hope they pay for them at the next election."Yes the current government has taken it to new levels but you have to look at this from the view that it has been the case with successive governments of various colours and proper reform is needed.Difficult given the weak processes that the UK has due to Parliamentary sovereignty and a system that relies on members being honourable.The UK may have to swallow a bitter pill and admit it doesn't have the best in the world system when it comes to democracy, accountability and corruption. Sadly this episode will blow over and those shouting now will soon not be heard as those that shouted before are nolonger heard.

Ed Robinson ● 1812d

Martine, of course we have the talent in this country.  But it will not flourish to its maximum extent if it is not educated and trained properly.  That has long been the case and nothing to do with Brexit.But if we accept that globalisation is a fact, that companies can and do relocate offices and factories to suit their market strategies and bottom lines, then this country has to be as competitive as possible - and Brexit has made us far less competitive in our own time zone and continent by putting trade barriers in place that were not there before, making work transfers from this country to our 27 closest neighbours much more difficult and expensive, and reducing the life chances of many of our young graduates.Inward investment to the UK, especially from the US and Japan, and of course China, was always in part predicated on using the UK as a base to attack the European market.  That rationale has gone, or at least has been badly impacted.One of the great knowledge and tech hubs of Europe is still the square mile round Kings Cross / St Pancras, with Google's European HQ, the Crick Institute, the British Library  and a host of other academic, research and tech organisations.  Why there?  One reason was transport connections - such as being just two hours from Paris and Brussels.  The future of that hub is no longer as certain as it was due and that is entirely down to Brexit.The country has the talent, no doubt at all.  But we will not make the most of that talent standing alone outside all the major trading blocs of the world.

Jonathan Callaway ● 1814d