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Laurence Fox

Whatever the outcome of mayoral elections he'll definitely ruffle a few feathers, especially with Khan's support for longer lockdown at this moment in time with everyone itching to getout of doors and socialize a bit more

Barbara Shillabeer ● 1855d21 Comments

A fool and their money soon start a political party-see Renew,Veterans and Peoples Party, Womens Equality Party-part of a free democracy,as  launching crap products is part of capitalism.

Hugh Thompson ● 1854d

We support free speech until it comes right back at us.Poor Piers Morgan (remember him - he got cancelled, allegedly):Piers Morgan: "I don't mind outside guests trying to make a name for themselves by whacking me like this, but I wasn't going to sit there and take it from one of my own team, especially someone who I've gone out of my way to help whenever he's asked me for advice about his career.""one of my own team"! - "You're mine, all mine, so don't dare to disagree, you ingrate!"---------------------------"How sharper than a thankless tooth it is to have a serpent child!"

David Ainsworth ● 1854d

"The day Laurence Fox launched his bid to beat the London elite... and heckled Sadiq Khan from a bus"I assume Fox having gone to Harrow can only be referring to those that went to Eton?https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/30/day-laurence-fox-launched-bid-beat-london-elite-heckled-sadiq/

Ed Robinson ● 1854d

Barbara. Speaking for myself, I've always tried to take a reasoned, logical approach quoting references to information I'm using when arguing about Brexit and other topics. I would certainly avoid being aggressive,  although when people say thing like "get over it, you lost" rather than argue constructively about, for example, what I consider deficiencies in the trade deal, it does try one's patience; however, I think my responses might be better described as assertive,  flippant or perhaps tetchy? They certainly weren't intended to be aggressive. 

Michael Ixer ● 1854d

"Totally agree that no-one has been barred physically for any particular view."So, if you can't catch, don't throw.

David Ainsworth ● 1854d

I am sure both sides felt equally aggrieved. I remember reading "you lost, get over it".Some of the things I do remember that did not materialize were the 350m for the NHS, the easiest deal ever, they need us more than we need them.....Hand in heart, the 2016 referendum was a really shameful episode in British history.Were remainers a bullying lot? I really do not think the Project Fear was that incorrect - though perhaps vociferous.  The truth is that the British economy has lost 40%$ of its exports to the EU and the government is now trying to get deals with the Asian TTPI... Does this really make sense to you?  The EU is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, neither is the UK.But throwing away that level of trade for nothing is, as far as I am concerned, ridiculous.Please bear in mind that the UK was a founding member of the EC, EEC and signed up to the EU through the Maastricht and Lisbon treaties."Possibly this is why the Remainers misunderstood the feelings of the electorate are were over confident"....  Will the fishermen agree, will the City agree, will the exporters agree?I am not against you, I just think that truth and honesty have gone overboard.Are you really happy that Research and Development have lost a massive amount of funding?Please remember, the UK signed for all the different rules and regulations, nothing was imposed.What I cannot, and will not, ever forget or forgive, is that our youth has lost out in Erasmus programmes. Closing doors to education is unforgivable!!!

Ivonne Holliday ● 1854d

Michael.  Totally agree that no-one has been barred physically for any particular view.  However, if any differing opinion from the Remainer group was posted it was usually quite aggressively dealt with.  Not always,but then the attitude was usually intellectually patronising. Verbal bullying has the same result, causing lack of interest in replying.Possibly this is why the Remainers misunderstood the feelings of the electorate are were over confident

Barbara Shillabeer ● 1854d

For more years than I can remember I've had to vote for'the least bad of them!Thank you for giving a brief run-down of the expenses occurred.  I truly had no idea of the cost.  Doesn't say much for democracy, does it?

Barbara Shillabeer ● 1854d

Hello Jonathan,I agree!  It is so difficult to pick "the least bad of them".....  Not very promising!

Ivonne Holliday ● 1855d

That bloke Brian seems to be well funded, or at least spending a lot on advertising. Seems to think we don’t need to know his surname. According to Wikipedia he’s a big hit on YouTube with a line in Covid-denial and anti-lockdown polemics. It looks to me like there are more than a few flaky independent candidates in the Mayoral race.

Jonathan Callaway ● 1855d

Barbara, has anyone been censored or banned from the forum for their views? There's been disagreement and challenges over facts on Brexit  and other topics but I wasn't aware of anyone not being free to express their views? For example, I know Paul Game and I disagreed on several topics but I think we were both free to express our views and did. (I don't recall anyone being excluded for breaking the forum's rules, but that could be my memory!)

Michael Ixer ● 1855d

Michael.  No.  It isn't a given we have free speech on this forum. , as any one supporting Brexit over the last year would testify. Also you don't have to propose not to have free speech. To be woke it is implicit

Barbara Shillabeer ● 1855d

On a different aspect of this topic, I had no idea that candidates had to put £20,000 (in two lots of £10,000) to be able to be candidates.No wonder there are all sorts of funding "proposals" going on.  Can they all afford to lose £20,000 if they do not have a minimum of votes?  Wow!!!!

Ivonne Holliday ● 1855d

The thing to remember is that the campaign has been running for over a year... Also, anybody these days is a content provider with the phone in their pocket (rightly or wrongly). I could decide to start campaigning for an election in the future now in a soft way.Rumours doing the mill (take that with a pinch of salt) is that there are all sorts of funding going on to the fringe candidates.

Ben Rainbow ● 1855d

He's launched his campaign and so far, although he hasn't produced a manifesto, he's proposed tearing up green belt protections, scrap Low Traffic Neighbourhoods, has no concrete plans to reduce air pollution as London Mayor, and believes climate change “is not as bad as everyone says it is. “I would say people’s lives today matter more than some projection in x number of years, of which climate models are very inaccurate,” he says.https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/news/24032021-laurence-fox-plans-to-tear-up-green-belt-protections-if-elected-mayor/

Richard Carter ● 1855d

Are any candidares proposing not to have free speech? Isn't that a given? And don't we have it? (We seem to on this forum!)

Michael Ixer ● 1855d

Ben.  Have you understood what he is proposing?  Amongst other things, freedom of speech, without which you could not have posted the rather OTT remark on his character that you did

Barbara Shillabeer ● 1855d

Don't we have to wait until Thursday to see the official list of candidates and who put their money where their mouth is?

Michael Ixer ● 1855d

While he should be given an equal platform, he is obviously not going to poll well and will more than likely lose his deposit. Doesn't really deserve a seat at the top table (he's trading on his "fame") much like other fringe parties like the Monster Raving Loonies or UKIP... Interesting read at https://bylinetimes.com/2021/03/26/a-race-to-the-bottom-the-weird-world-of-the-2021-london-mayoral-election/

Ben Rainbow ● 1855d

I am looking forward to hearing him.  Do the candidates debate with each other at any time during the campaign, I can't remember?  A head to head with Khan could be fun ...

Sue Hammond ● 1855d

He's a laughing stock, there is a candidate who has a (main) point in his manifesto is to beat Mr Fox...

Ben Rainbow ● 1855d