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Larry Elliott has always been a eurosceptic so his comments as quoted by Mr Hawkes came as no surprise.  Whether we stayed or left, the stresses and strains within Europe - north vs south in economic terms, east vs west in terms of democratic norms, will remain.  But even if we manage to boost our trade with non-EU countries we still need Europe to be successful economically if we are truly to thrive.  We may have broken away from the political structures but it will be harder to escape the orbit of the largest single market on the planet.The bit in the article which I found telling was this "Leaving the EU means UK governments no longer have anywhere to hide. They have economic levers they can pull – procurement, tax, ownership, regulation, investment in infrastructure, subsidies for new industries, trade policy – and they will come under pressure to use them".He then goes on to express the hope that we have a govt as adept at delivering a brave new economic world as it was in delivering us Brexit.  I think we must all hope that.  What are the chances though?  And what exactly is the plan?  The £200bn estimated as the cost to the UK economy of Brexit since the referendum must first be recouped, then we should expect some net tangible gains from our new super-independent status.  This govt will be hard pressed to achieve any net tangible gains by 2024, in my view.  By then the electorate should have a clearer view of how we are faring, and vote accordingly.

Jonathan Callaway ● 1943d

Mr CarterDoubtless there will be administrative inconveniences from our Brexit deal, even though the examples you post look pretty inconsequential to me (Duty-free limits ?).But here is a surprising article from Larry Elliott the economics editor of - yes, the leftist GUARDIAN !https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/31/the-left-brexit-economic-ukHe points out the disadvantages of EU membership -'If there are problems with the UK economy, it is equally obvious there are big problems with the EU as well: slow growth, high levels of unemployment, a rapidly ageing population. The single currency – which Britain fortunately never joined – has failed to deliver the promised benefits. Instead of convergence between member states there has been divergence; instead of closing the gap in living standards with the US, the eurozone nations have fallen further behind. In their heads, those predicting Armageddon for the UK imagine the EU to still be Germany’s miracle economy – the Wirtschaftswunder – of the 1960s. The reality is somewhat different. It is Italy, where living standards are no higher than they were when the single currency was introduced two decades ago. It is Greece, forced to accept ideologically motivated austerity in return for financial support. The four freedoms of the single market – no barriers to the movement of goods, services, people and capital – are actually the four pillars of neoliberalism'.He also points out benefits we might gain in being free to run our economy as we decide - 'Leaving the EU means UK governments no longer have anywhere to hide. They have economic levers they can pull – procurement, tax, ownership, regulation, investment in infrastructure, subsidies for new industries, trade policy – and they will come under pressure to use them'.Let's hope that for the next four years we have a Government as adept at delivering a brave new economic world as it was in delivering us Brexit.Now we need actions not just slogans.

John Hawkes ● 1943d

The other area where Brexit is impacting people's lives is those of EU citizens now living in the UK.  They are rightly cautious about the paper-free right to remain the Home Office is offering, always assuming they correctly complete all the on-line forms, but the lack of evidence could create a future Windrush in the hands of an unsympathetic government.Also, mixed marriages are a problem - one partner may lose some of his/her rights here, to the detriment of family income, but the family unit can't necessarily up sticks and move to the country of the other partner - where the UK partner may have equal residence or work permit problems.The fate of many UK citizens living in the EU is equally problematic, again especially if it is a mixed marriage - the foreign partner may not meet the minimum income threshold and thus be unable to stay here, never mind work here, while the UK partner may have problems in the EU country they currently live in.All of this can be dealt with if there were a flexible immigration system here, but we are still in the "hostile environment" stage brought in by Theresa May and enthusiastically backed by Priti Patel.On top of all this, the scrapping of the Erasmus scheme for student exchanges is a real retrograde step.  Maybe that will be reconsidered at some stage but many thousands of UK students in a range of disciplines and from all sorts of backgrounds, will now be denied the opportunity to study abroad.  The new scheme (named after Alan Turing) is likely to be underfunded and not include travel costs - which of course are much higher if the focus is on Anglophone countries like Canada, the USA, Australia etc.So there is very little to celebrate tonight in my view.

Jonathan Callaway ● 1943d