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Entrepreneur launching legal challenge to UK Government Lockdown

Simon Dolan, owner of Jota aviation.Join The Challenge

Michael Brown ● 2229d15 Comments

So you didn’t answer my question. Are you a carpenter Mike? I smell sawdust.

Freddie Francis ● 2217d

Michael Brown ● 2217d

Hell of a complex conspiracy if it were one. I mean, who would involve bats in a conspiracy?---------------------W.C. Fields: "Never work with children or animals".

David Ainsworth ● 2217d

I'm sorry but there's always one.  I know several people who are anti-Covid, either don't believe it/antivaxers/think it's a conspiracy.Sadly sign of a misspent youth, but avoid as much as possible, rubbish imho

Bunny Payne ● 2217d

Ms Brown. Are you a carpenter by any chance?

Freddie Francis ● 2218d

It was interesting that the BBC R4 programme More or Less that explains and investigates statistics had to explain how the R number could be decimal (R=0.5, 0.7, 1.1, …) rather than an integer (R=1, 2, … ). It shows a disappointing level of maths education in the UK (or perhaps it's just those 0.7 members of the average family that have a problem?) but perhaps it would explain why (as I believe exponential increases also had to be explained) scientists might resort to the FUD factor to get the populations to follow the lockdown rules. (FUD: fear, uncertainty, doubt.) I don't necessarily agree with the use of "FUD", it's certainly frowned in the the technology circles I move in, but  sometimes its seen as the only option of last resort (for example, just ask anyone if they wanted to be CEO of Talk Talk or Traveled when the brown stuff hit the fan 😺 So I'm not sure what the point of this poart if the challenge is? Talking of More or Less, they've also investigated and analysed the daily testing figures and - guess what - the government's never really met it's 100,000 tests a day target, or at leasdt from the responses they got to questions it certainly sounds like they couldn't prove it to any self respecting auditor. So it looks like Mr Hancock's maths education is lacking and he should liusten to More or Less, or he's being, er, what's that phrase? Economical with the truth? Anyway, looking at the respondents in this thgread, think I should start using the Ike Mixer non de plume …

Michael Ixer ● 2218d

Simon Dolan expects the Judicial Review to cost in the region of £700,000, and more if he loses – less if he wins. The government has already requested more time to respond to his challenge, which his legal team granted the government a week ago, which I believe is now up. Mr Dolan believes he can win on the legal points but thinks that the biggest challenge will be with the Judges given the enormity of such ruling over the government. An interview with Mr Dolan can be found via the link below:Simon Dolan InterviewHis legal team requested the Minutes from the Government SAGE meetings, but many have been withheld or redacted. However, in one document that they received relating to advice from the ‘Behavioural’ experts, it referred to the need to scare people, saying that “the perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased, using hard hitting emotional messaging”. So what’s in the pages that the government won’t release?!

Michael Brown ● 2218d

Simon Dolan expects the Judicial Review to cost in the region of £700,000, and more if he loses – less if he wins. The government has already requested more time to respond to his challenge, which his legal team granted the government a week ago, which I believe is now up. Mr Dolan believes he can win on the legal points but thinks that the biggest challenge will be with the Judges given the enormity of such ruling over the government. An interview with Mr Dolan can be found via the link below:Simon Dolan InterviewHis legal team requested the Minutes from the Government SAGE meetings, but many have been withheld or redacted. However, in one document that they received relating to advice from the ‘Behavioural’ experts, it referred to the need to scare people, saying that “the perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased, using hard hitting emotional messaging”. So what’s in the pages that the government won’t release?!

Michael Brown ● 2218d

The guy behind this, Simon Dolan, is apparently worth over £100 million. Why is the skinflint barsteward looking to fleece innocent idiot citizens for £30k to fund his legal case? So he wants to kill me and, despite him being well able to afford it himself, he wants me to pay for it. Unbelievable. Unbelievable of him. Anyone promoting his campaign has to be a total scumbag, or just a moron.

Michael Winstanley ● 2229d

Thank you Michael and the Guardian article is very clear indeed! And no, I do not agree with his reasoning either.  Some bits sounded incredibly similar to the ones being branded about in the US protests.  I also agree with individual freedoms, but the health of the citizens of this country comes first.   It is also odd to read he has been delivering PPE to the NHS because it was under such strain and that appears to be irrelevant? 

Ivonne Holliday ● 2229d

Ivonne.My thoughts initially, although if you look at the Guardian article he is funding taking it to court and the crowd funding is contingency in the event the case drags on, and I suspect he may need the money to stop the case collapsing if that happens. I don't think Dolan himself is any sort of maniac, but I won't be donating because I think he has a weak case and I fundamentally disagree with him on this - although I'm generally in favour of individual freedoms I think with a threat of this nature one has to look to the common good and I think the lockdown is the least worst option in the circumstances. I don't think the ECHR will help as in emergencies I think it takes a similar view, and with regard to using the wrong UK act as a basis for the restrictions, as Parliament is sovereign the Court may be able to refer it back to Parliament to rectify but it can't overturn the law as in the US. So I'd also consider it a waste of money: I really don't believe in charity for lawyers 🙂 Thought Dolan sounded familiar, it must be the motor racing connection; Le Mans, etc.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Dolanhttps://www.theguardian.com/law/2020/may/01/uk-government-faces-legal-challenge-coronavirus-lockdown-businessman-simon-dolan

Michael Ixer ● 2229d

Why would Simon Dolan crowdfund for £125,000 for the whole court case if he is worth some £142 million?   Or perhaps he is that rich because he pays nothing himself?

Ivonne Holliday ● 2229d

Just £5 could make a difference.Make that donation now and, maybe, save a life.

Michael Brown ● 2229d

You bit and made his day. He is best ignored or ridiculed as Richard Carter and others didearlier in the week so brilliantly

Andy Pike ● 2229d

Forget the....head, it is just a scam

Patrick Barrs ● 2229d

I've just done a search on you and answered my own question - at least for my own benefit. You are a total nutter. You are spreading divisive, dangerous, misinformation during a public health emergency. In wartime (and we should consider this a war), you would be locked up. You are like someone saying Nazis meant us no harm during WW2. You are seriously deluded. You want me and others to die so that you can preserve your income. Shame on you.Now, you may disagree with all that. In future though, you could offer careful evidence, step by step for the tinfoil hat theories you post here.Meanwhile my heart bleeds for Mr Dolan's airline in Southend. Yet another entrepeneur who doesn't appreciate entrepeneurship means taking risk.When I see one of these campaigns being launched by one of his laid off employees, I might have a bit more sympathy,

Michael Winstanley ● 2229d

Why aid, by publicising, this antisocial scumbag's campaign?

Michael Winstanley ● 2229d