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Flytipping

Flytipping this morning at  Levellers Court, blocking 3 of Boots fire exits, also saw a large rat

Penelope Becker ● 1884d36 Comments

Peter, thank you very much for your reply to my question.Do you know if any disciplinary action was taken against Mr Corbyn for the many times (I believe in excess of 400) he voted against the Blair and Brown governments?

Elizabeth Balsom ● 1879d

Katrina.  It depends where I'm living and working.  There are flats in most boroughs - some manage to use the food waste systems.  WRAP have done lots of trials.  Friends in Wandsworth wish there was food waste recycling.  It shows you exactly what you are wasting and gives you yourself the power to tweak your buying, eating and storing of food to save money and make less waste.  I think it's definitely a win win situation that residents of Wandsworth are missing out on.  Both Lambeth and Westminster who are Western Riverside have done/are doing it.When it is estimated that a family of four wastes £60 of food a month (just look at that multiplied by 12) or one in three carrier bags of food gets thrown away then it has to be worth reassessing what you are doing.  We can't all be innocent!Oxford has people who will mentor residents who want to start composting their garden and food waste.  There are reduced price composters offered by councils.  You don't see many Green Johannas or Green Cones presumably because they are more expensive but sometimes you can find these on www.trashnothing.com or other similar websites.https://www.lovefoodhatewaste.com/why-save-food

Philippa Bond ● 1880d

https://wrwa.gov.uk/a-z-of-materials/

Philippa Bond ● 1880d

Now if kerbside recycling and residual waste collections ceased then I would really see that there would be a big problem. It is obviously more important to keep those going.  A lot of people don't have transport to get waste to the recycling centres.I'm always surprised to see so many unflattened boxes and plastic bottles and tin cans.  It makes a lot more space.  You can avoid plastic milk bottles by getting your milk delivered by the milkman and plastic water bottles by using tap water and a sodastream if you crave fizzy water. There are public recycling banks but there's no knowing whether they will be full at a time like this. Leaving bags by a bank tends to be considered fly-tipping and unfortunately is often sorted through and spread all over the place.https://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/rubbish-and-recycling/household-rubbish-and-recycling-collection/public-recycling-banks/Here's a good chance to check www.wandsworth.gov.uk that you are recycling as much as you can so that your residual waste is as little as possible.  You can also check your Waste Authority - Western Riverside - for more information.You can check the websites for reduced price compost bins etc. 

Philippa Bond ● 1881d

Not certain on this but I think most Councils in and out of London have closed their tips . It's not as if theres no fly tipping when they are open. Lazy unsociable ba...ds will be lazy unsociable ba...rds whether the tips are open or not.

Andy Pike ● 1881d

I think you may not live in Wandsworth Borough. It stretches from Putney to Tooting and Nine Elms in Battersea and includes many high rise buildings. As I recall Wandsworth Borough Council used the number of high rise buildings in the area as a reason for not asking residents to separate out food waste. There are insufficient areas within flats to store it. It has little to do with whether residents are or are not wealthy enough as you suggest.

Katrina Black ● 1881d

Unintended consequences again.The Council in its infinite wisdom has closed the Wandsworth tip.Responsible people like us will store their rubbish till it opens.Lazy ignoramuses will not.I personally would have thought that the Council would have wanted rubbish dispersed as soon as possible.The way the tip works would have made disposal almost risk free -People turn up in cars; they are directed by man in mask 6 feet from vehicle to any empty bay which themselves are restricted to  maintain separation; under supervision they drop their rubbish in appropriate skip; they get back in car and drive off.Simples !Good job the Council does not run a supermarket or we would all be starving.

John Hawkes ● 1881d

Johnson is a joke.Now that there is more testing (even though heavily oversubscribed) hopefully we will have those waste and recycling centres back open soon. They will need to have somewhere to transport it on to.  However we do need to rethink our rubbish and move on to more of circular economy.Incineration even if for energy is not the ideal solution for everything eg the earth's finite resources.Remember when buying electrical and electronics you can usually have your old appliance collected when the new one is delivered.  In fact Curry's accept all kinds of electronic/electrical stuff even if you did not buy it from them.  (If they are open you can take items, and they definitely are open for online purchases - so it may just depend on the available space in their vans).  Ask when you order.   

Philippa Bond ● 1881d

And Johnson will be taking 2 weeks paternity leave in the summer (well he said "almost certainly").

David Ainsworth ● 1881d

Now Cummings is back in control, we have no worries! With Johnson's attempts to prorogue Parliament and allowing an Easter recess at a time of crisis, the Tories have done all they can to subvert and devalue the normal political processes. This Covid shutdown must be just what they want! 'Don't worry, it's all under control! We know what we're doing!' And any valid criticism is rejected as 'unnecessary political point scoring'.  'Who needs these tiresome, ineffective democratic processes?' is usually the initial pitch of a dictatorship. So much more efficient!

Peter Evans ● 1881d

With both the PM and the opposition missing over the last few weeks I was just wondering if we need them?Seems to me our democratic structures are not really fit for purpose and in need of reform.

Ed Robinson ● 1881d

All three were so at odds with the direction the Labour party was taking under Jeremy Corbyn and never supported him as leader and, to various degrees were at odds with their local membership, that I'd say it's unlikely they'd remain as Labour MPs or want to.  Berger and Ellman resigned anyway, Berger to join another party, while Hodge, after fighting off deselection, was determined to stay on as MP to continue her personal battle against Corbyn, though you'd expect calling your boss 'a f*cking anti-Semite and racist' to their face would normally result in some kind of disciplinary action.  Meanwhile, let's sort out this fly tipping!

Peter Evans ● 1881d

Peter, your description of Johnson is spot on.I wonder, if we were three years into a Corbyn led govt. would Louise Ellman who served with distinction as chair of the Transport Select Committee still be an MP? What about Luciana Berger and other Jewish MPs? Would Margaret Hodge who has served the party for decades be subject to a disciplinary investigation? You explanation would help me better understand the Labour party.  Thank you in advance.

Elizabeth Balsom ● 1881d

Now that the testing is available for key workers we will hopefully find that more workers will be available to work. Many more people will have also now had the virus.Perhaps now is also the time to question why Wandsworth unlike most other London boroughs chooses not to collect food waste from households.  This is a brilliant way to encourage less food waste, save money and be left with bin bags which are less wet and smelly and attractive to rats, cats, crows, foxes and magpies etc.  You won't appreciate what you are wasting until you separate it out and see it. Maybe the Council reckons that residents are too well off for it to worry them?I think that a harder line should be taken on flytippers and they should be fined, named and shamed.

Philippa Bond ● 1882d

With 'Corbyn and his pals' we'd be three years into a Labour led government run by a team of principled politicians concerned about the welfare of all our people. We'd be three years into a properly funded non-privatised health service, with a National Care Service covering care in the community. We'd be three years into public utilities and transport run for the benefit of those who use it. We'd be three years into a tax system that expects those with the broadest shoulders to pay more, with fewer loopholes for multinational companies. We'd be three years into a proper welfare system that supports those who need it. We'd be three years... anyway, it was all in the manifesto. What we wouldn't have is a government so completely out of its depth led by an lazy and unprincipled public schoolboy with the gift of the gab and the attention span of a Tory politician on the make. But then that was the people's choice (Putney, etc. not included), so they shouldn't be surprised by the present lies and obfuscations.

Peter Evans ● 1882d

Watching the two lawyers at PMQ I got the feeling I'd rather have Starmer on my side on court, although I suppose Raab was having to defend some decisions others had made. I felt he would have been better meeting up front the lack of testing of care staff became many can't afford cars or, if they come from abroad may not have UK driving licences. I don't think there's necessarily any malice in that I just think many in this government come from a background where people assume one have access to a care, whether it's pater's Bentley or the nanny's mini. (Ok, I exaggerate a bit but you know what I mean...)

Michael Ixer ● 1882d

I hope he's history. I remember the harm Militant did to people I knew who were Labour party members, like a friend's husband who was a Labour council in Hackney, a colleague who with her husband resigned from their local Labour party because they couldn't cope with the verbal and physical intimidation - she later became a LibDem peer. And there were the "shop floor" workers at breweries on Merseyside whose lives were made wretched by fellow workers they described as "Communists". And I came to Putney to escape Ted Knight's Lambeth. If you want a lousy council, that was it.I thought Kinnock & Co and later Blair bravely saw off the hard left, but they resurfaced to take over the party nationally, and not just at the local level. I hope Starmer has better luck. Certainly someone needs to hold Johnson to account.

Elizabeth Balsom ● 1882d

"We may now be entering an era of forensic cross examination of the PM and his stand-in."Forensic cross examination of Macavity!?"Macavity, Macavity, there's no one like Macavity,There never was a Cat of such deceitfulness and suavity.He always has an alibi, and one or two to spare:At whatever time the deed took place - MACAVITY WASN'T THERE!"

David Ainsworth ● 1882d

Corbyn is history.  We may now be entering an era of forensic cross examination of the PM and his stand-in.  We should welcome it as both necessary and long overdue.

Jonathan Callaway ● 1882d

"I dread to think what the situation would be like with Corbyn & his Pals in charge!"As I wrote on this, 4 weeks ago:_Oh the relief that we have so narrowly avoided a Soviet-style way-of-life of restrictions, fear, shortages and queuing! It could be so much worse!

David Ainsworth ● 1882d

As I said in my first post on this thread many of the operatives at Household Reuse & Recycling Centres all over the country have been/are being reallocated to working to keep the kerbside collections going. Staff are becoming ill or their families are and they have to self-isolate.Everybody should be separating their waste anyway so that there are no bad fly-tips.I really can't  imagine what the situation would be like if the regular collections didn't happen.You need to look at a bigger picture.  It could be a good time to think about giving back to the earth and learning how to compost your garden waste.  Or community composting. 

Philippa Bond ● 1882d

I dread to think what the situation would be like with Corbyn & his Pals in charge!

Vic Condon ● 1882d

"I blame the council and our "not fit for purpose government" not the fly-tipper"While undesirous of taking any blame off of the Tories, I'd say that the flytipper at least shares the blame. It is not as if flytipping only occurs while the plague is raging. It is possible for many of us to store bulky rubbish and wait. It is also possible to reduce the size of some rubbish and eke out its disposal over several weeks in the normal weekly pick-up. Just be careful with that axe!

David Ainsworth ● 1882d

Tuesday last week, when I went out for my daily walk, I found three black bags with garden rubbish against my front fence. I went into the council website and emailed this. Next day it was gone. I welcomed this quick response.

Elizabeth Balsom ● 1882d

Agree!

Alexander MacLeod ● 1882d

There is no reason not to open up the waste centres. Social distancing can be easily managed. If construction sites are open then there is no reason for this. I blame the council and our "not fit for purpose government" not the fly-tipper

Imbuzi Yentaba ● 1882d

Has anybody reported this flytipping?  www.fixmystreet.com used to work when the Council's systems aren't working.  Or your Councillors. Has anybody tried using www.hippowaste.co.uk to remove their building or garden waste recently?  They appear to be working in a contact-free manner.

Philippa Bond ● 1883d

'A well known celebrity chef once sponsored a range of sausages.' Wasn't that Ainsley Harriet?

Denzil Darby ● 1883d

Ha, Ha.

Barbara Stevens ● 1883d

A well known celebrity chef once sponsored a range of sausages. His picture appeared next to the words “Prick with Fork”. His reputation never quite recovered, to the extent I’ve forgotten his name!

Jonathan Callaway ● 1883d

Always prick potatoes :)

Simon Knight ● 1883d

Sorry David, it exploded - so repair is out of the question!

Alexander MacLeod ● 1883d

"I have a defunct microwave oven gathering dust at my backdoor"Well, you've got weeks in isolation now. Download the manual from the web, get out your screwdrivers and try to repair it. If you are successful, you will feel so happy and good. If you are unsuccessful, well, at least, you can kick it around the back garden.That may feel good too.

David Ainsworth ● 1883d

Not defeatist, Philippa, just frustrated! I have a defunct microwave oven gathering dust at my backdoor. No place to put it with the recycling facility shut. I wonder if a way could not be found to reopen it, with social distancing.

Alexander MacLeod ● 1883d

Such a defeatist attitude!  What is the fly-tipping?  Garden waste/mixed ordinary household waste or what a landlord has cleared out of a home left vacant by its previous tenants?  The last one changes from being household waste to business waste when it is left to the landlord.Residents need to be reminded that if it is traced back to them then they can be very heavily fined.  They should also be reminded that they should not hand over their waste or cash  to unlicensed waste collectors who may either just dump it around the corner or in your favourite beauty spot or take your money before they bring their van/lorry around but never actually return.  Councils are increasing CCTV to catch these antisocial members of society. Unfortunately fly-tipping doesn't just attract rats but it also attracts other flytipping.  Reuse & Recycling centres are closed all over the country as workers are re-deployed to the kerbside collections.

Philippa Bond ● 1883d

As far as I know the Wandsworth tip remains closed. Fly-tipping, though rotten, is inevitable until the facility reopens.

Alexander MacLeod ● 1884d