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Dianne Abbott and son

Like mother like son Both bullies.. Both try to run roughshod over people. Not nice characters at all.

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2534d37 Comments

From the telegraph newspaper:'Diane Abbott, the shadow home secretary, on Tuesday night tried to prevent The Telegraph from publishing details of a court hearing at which her son was accused of assaulting a police officer'https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/03/diane-abbotts-son-accused-assaulting-officer-outside-foreign/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Paul Game ● 2534d

It was suggested that I should not have started a new thread re Dianne Abbott and son as there was already one running.1) it would never have occurred to me to look on Will Sweet thread for Dianne Abbott .2)  I started the thread earlier than the one on Will Sweet. 3) it was also suggested I was wrong in being anti Dianne Abbott.  From my personal knowledge of her over many years I thought I was quite restrained actually. 4) I was always taught that if you can't say anything good about someone, say nothing.

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2532d

"I was always taught that if you can't say anything good about someone, say nothing.""Like mother like son Both bullies.. Both try to run roughshod over people. Not nice characters at all."But you forgot what you were always taught.

David Ainsworth ● 2532d

Barbara, you started this thread on 4/12 at 13.19. Another thread headed 'Diane Abbott' was started on 3/12 at 12.25. You really can't claim that yours was first and it this has nothing to do with Will Sweet. As you say yourself sometimes it's best to say nothing!

Jane Carter ● 2532d

"As you say yourself sometimes it's best to say nothing!"Recipe for tumbleweed on the Forum?--------------------By the way, I have had to sign in here twice already today. Are they trying to tell me something gently?

David Ainsworth ● 2532d

"Barbara, you started this thread on 4/12 at 13.19. Another thread headed 'Diane Abbott' was started on 3/12 at 12.25. You really can't claim that yours was first and it this has nothing to do with Will Sweet. As you say yourself sometimes it's best to say nothing!"Pedantic or what?🙄 Do you ever take your own advice Jane?

Sue Hammond ● 2532d

touche David  But at least I can remember what respecting a democratic result means

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2532d

On the 4th December was on Will Sweet thread. It would not have occurred to me to look on a Will Sweet thread for Dianne Abbott. I saw no connection between Will Sweet and Dianne Abbott ( about whom I rarely read,) so started a new thread Dianne Abbott and SON to differentiate and make obvious the subject that concerned me, which was the criminality of a parliamentary employee  His name on its own may not have been enough to highlight the issue but given his parentage I used that fact. She is actually an irrelevance to the charge

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2532d

You didn't have to look in the Will Sweet thread, that isn't the other thread that is being talked about.You started this thread "Dianne Abbott and son" at 04/12/19 13:19:00.At that time there already was a thread with a title of "Dianne Abbott" which was started by Paul Game the day before at 03/12/19 12:50:00:-http://appasp.putneysw15.com/server/app/forum/ShowMessage.asp?ID=1349843There are posts in that thread, on the 3rd December, about the incident with her son too, all before you started a second thread on her the day after.

Alex Greenbank ● 2532d

Really, who gives a flying duck!🙄

Sue Hammond ● 2532d

I started a thread on Dianne Abbott's SON not her.    There is a distinct difference.  If I wanted to discuss Harper Beckham it is highly unlikely I would start a thread on Victoria.. I would obviously include her and David  and other sons in the conversation but it would be HER post..It is completely beyond my understanding that people cannot grasp this very simple fact and much as I don't approve of her, Dianne that is, as far as I am aware, she has not been accused of a criminal act.

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2532d

I was always taught that if you can't say anything good about someone, say nothing.Mrs Shillabeer,A lesson soon forgotten I fear.

John Hawkes ● 2531d

Mr Hawkes.  Please keep up.  David had already chastised me for that aberration.Guilty as charged.  I promise to do better in future

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2531d

Seriously Barbara?  You called Diane Abbott ‘a bully’, accused her over riding roughshod over people and described her as ‘not a nice character at all’  Maybe worth reflecting on your own posts before telling others theirs are vindictive and nasty.

Craig Fordham ● 2531d

Everyone can give Bozzie Bear (Boris Johnson) and every Conservative candidate crap but they can’t give Dianne Abbott stick!This is the lady that wanted to abolish MI5 and can’t count to 10!Can the 40 odd thousand people in Hackney that vote for her not count to ten either? Seriously they must be deluded, all of them.

Nick Gulliford ● 2531d

I'm sensing you have a soft spot for Diane, Nick ;) 

Craig Fordham ● 2531d

What you are saying is crystal clear to me Barbara. My last post was one of exasperation aimed at those pedants who keep banging on about what was posted in which thread and at what time. It seems to me that certain posters on this forum could start an argument in an empty room. They are best ignored.

Sue Hammond ● 2531d

Ha ha , that is making me laugh Craig. I do like good dry British humour. Cheers Nick

Nick Gulliford ● 2531d

It seems to me that certain posters on this forum could start an argument in an empty room. They are best ignored.Ms HammondDo I read you correctly ??!!

John Hawkes ● 2531d

Craig  As stated I have personal knowledge of Dianne Abbott since the 70's  I know what I've witnessed.  I DON'T lie.  Can't be bothered.  She's irrelevant to my life.  Again I reiterate  Was talking about an alleged criminal incident by her SON.. Again I repeat as far as I know she has no criminal tendencies. End of.  ( and don't start on my lack of grammar! )

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2531d

Nick  I was one who didn't at any time vote for her. I wasn't exactly flavour of the month!

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2531d

John Hawkes re the empty room: Yes, it took my breath away, too. I think we are stuck with such people, but I try to take solace in recalling the ever-wise Ambrose Bierce’s definition of Prejudice: “A vagrant opinion without visible means of support”.

Alexander MacLeod ● 2531d

Mr GullifordPerhaps Ms Abbott wants to abolish MI5 because they have information that she is applying her maths skills on behalf of the Conservative Party with regard to their promised 50,000 extra nurses and funding for 40 new hospitals.

John Hawkes ● 2531d

Mrs ShillabeerI am glad you don't lie.In that case have you heard any statements made or written by Boris Johnson that in your mind would require him to walk on his knees in penance as he stated lying politicians should do ?For instance that he has never written anything to deliberately insult working class men, single mothers, Muslim women etc etc.Or that his Withdrawal Agreement arrangements for the trading status of Northern Ireland will not require any checks between them and the UK mainland when Stephen Barclay his Brexit Minister told the House of Lords that it would ?

John Hawkes ● 2531d

Mr Hawkes  I can accept no responsibility whatsoever for anyone else, including my own children.  We all have our own version of what is right and what is not acceptable.  In some instances I am, as my husband used to say, to the right of Ghengis Khan, in other circumstances I'm more liberal than Roy Jenkins.  IMO as long as we make considered opinions no one really has the right to judge as it's all self opinions anyway.

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2530d

I agree with you, Barbara. We can try and influence others but everyone has to take responsibility for their and only their actions. However, although not applicable in this situation, in a command and control, typically workplace, situation responsibility must be also be placed on those in senior positions to provide accurate information and guidance to those less junior and/or experienced than them?

Michael Ixer ● 2530d

Bravo!!

Ivonne Holliday ● 2530d

Do we have a variation of quantum fluctuations on the Putney website. Do the arguments also annihilate themselves after a while? Perhaps not ...

Michael Ixer ● 2530d

Is it only the ladies on this forum that post under their real names? Respect to them Own up, most of the males are under silly made up names? Not all but a lot of you? If you genuinely believe in what you are saying post with your real name?!!!!’

Nick Gulliford ● 2530d

'IMO as long as we make considered opinions no one really has the right to judge as it's all self opinions anyway'.Mrs ShillabeerYou said earlier that you did not lie.I put it too you again - "Do you believe that Boris Johnson has told deliberate lies in this election campaign" ?Your cop out above - namely that 'it's all self opinions' is very dangerous though I doubt you would recognise it as such.There is such a thing as truth and there are verifiable facts.As soon as people like you deny this then the more people like me are in danger from the likes of Johnson and Trump and ultimately you.To claim as the Conservatives and Johnson did that they would increase the number of nurses by 50,000 whilst at the same time saying that this figure includes 19,000 existing nurses they would in some way they would prevent from leaving makes the first statement a lie.And you seem not to care that the person delivering this lie will more than likely lead this once rightfully proud and honest country,

John Hawkes ● 2530d

Diane Abbott doesn't want to abolish MI5. She made some critical comments about the organisation around thirty years ago.  That was about the same time that Boris Johnson was sacked from the Times for inventing 'factual' quotes and started writing equally 'inventive' articles about non-existent EU policies. And he's continued to 'invent' stuff ever since.

Peter Evans ● 2530d

Do you really believe that, Nick?  I always thought that most people on here were genuine (apart from a couple of really obvious trolls)

Craig Fordham ● 2530d

I'm guessing (from a very brief Google check) Nick is a real person. Sadly my Google print is a bit larger than I'd like but beware, I haven't recently got married (that wouldn't please my other wife 🙂) and I don't play any brass instruments. (Yes, there is more than one Mike Ixer 😺)

Michael Ixer ● 2530d

Mr Hawkes  I have already answered your question and I will not be bullied into further discussion by somebody who cannot accept that many people on many subjects on this forum, have differing points of view to your own

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2530d

Mr Hawkes is best ignored Barbara.

Sue Hammond ● 2530d

Mrs ShillabeerYou have NOT answered my question.I rephrase - 'do you think Johnson lies ?'And it is quite frightening that there are people like you who cannot tell the difference between 'a point of view' and a demonstrable fact.

John Hawkes ● 2530d

Yes Ms HammondThen you don't have to face a discussion on some of your dubious opinions.

John Hawkes ● 2530d