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Latest Survation / YouGov Projections for Putney GE2019

LIBDEM 34%, CON 30%, LAB 24%.CON 32%, LIBDEM 31%, LAB 18%.Labour have been in 3rd place in every poll during October.Clearly the LIBDEMs can win here...and no-one needs vote for Corbyn's Labour if they don't want to.

Rob Anderson ● 2566d24 Comments

OK, so currently I had better vote for the anti-democrats (to use Mr Game's terms), in order to try and stop Brexit.

David Ainsworth ● 2566d

That's the idea David.It looks like a straight fight between BRINO and the anti-democrats, with the anti-Semites trailing in third position.

Paul Game ● 2566d

Long live the anti-democrats!  That term, of course,  according to Paul Game who considers himself to be the only democrat left on earth!

Ivonne Holliday ● 2566d

Rather than just posting numbers perhaps you could post a link to the data also?

Matt Palmer ● 2566d

Morning Ivonne, there are plenty of us still here in the UK, just not many on this forum :-)

Paul Game ● 2566d

I presume Mr Game is not planning to vote in the coming election, as the nation decided everything in 2017 and you should never override the will of the people 😂

Sean Hodges ● 2566d

https://flavible.co.uk/polls/1438Zoom into the map and click on Putney. More info based on these datasets and more on Twitter @PutneyTactical

Rob Anderson ● 2566d

Not a difficult choice for me.BRINO, the anti-democrats, the anti-Semites or The Brexit Party.I will stick with the party that 'does exactly what is says on the tin' TBP.

Paul Game ● 2566d

Probably best to make sure with an alliance between the anti-democrats and the anti-semites, then. Better safe than sorry.

David Ainsworth ● 2566d

interesting stats, cons 30% + brexit 10% = 40% whereas Putney was 72% remain. with Lib(un)Dem at 34% seems best for leavers to vote con rather than brexit

Adam Tripp ● 2566d

Some good banter going on this morning on a couple of threads between Paul and David lolPaul's description of the parties I'm sure is a little tongue in cheek but there is an air of accuracy about it too :)

Mike Essam ● 2566d

"good banter"I think that Lucille Grant deserves a name-check here.

David Ainsworth ● 2566d

Maybe this is not just a one issue election after all?

Jonathan Callaway ● 2566d

What ever you think about Brexit the Liberals will probable look to take the DUP’s place and join the conservatives in another coalition.You have to remember the last coalition or have people forgot the Liberals role?Sadly Swindon is no Charles Kennedy.Just check the voting record and decide.

Ed Robinson ● 2566d

"How Jo Swinson voted on Welfare and Benefits:"Almost always voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (the "bedroom tax") "Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices."Consistently voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability"Consistently voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial need afford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support "Almost always voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits "Almost always voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed"She also voted against a bankers' bonus tax and in favour of reducing corporation tax. Seems indistinguishable from a Tory in too many ways.

Peter Evans ● 2566d

"It looks like a straight fight between BRINO and the anti-democrats, with the anti-Semites trailing in third position".Mr GameYou could of course vote for the Brexit Party.However as he has refused to stand as a candidate in this election, you will not be able to vote for Nigel Farage were he to be chosen as their candidate."Chick, chick, chick chick chicken....."Or as Mrs Thatcher might have said he is simply 'frit' of putting his self proclaimed attraction shown by the electorate to the test.

John Hawkes ● 2565d

Hi Peter, thanks for raising this. It's certainly fair to say this if ONLY considering the below information, which I guess you took from the TheyWorkForYou website. But all of the votes on the issues you list that TheyWorkForYou aggregates were during the period 2010-2015, when Jo Swinson was a minister in a coalition government with the Tories. A lot's changed since then!It seems that lessons have been learned as the LIBDEMs have ruled out entering a coalition with either the Tories or Labour. Once bitten, twice shy.

Rob Anderson ● 2565d

Do you really believe that Rob?Or more important would if a coalition was offered how long would the Liberal Brexit policy last, as not all liberals agree with it to start with?

Ed Robinson ● 2565d

Thinking it through, yes I do. The years spent in a Tory coalition have obviously and clearly hurt the LIBDEMs and I can't imagine it's an experience they would want to repeat. I do also believe that if the LIBDEMs achieve a majority government they will revoke Article 50 as per stated policy. But if they weren't in that position they will continue to push for a People's Vote, as they consistently have. And it's clear that in such a People's Vote LIBDEMs would campaign for remain, unlike Labour. Their Shadow Business Secretary today said Labour would renegotiate the current Brexit deal, put it to people in “a referendum of sorts” and then possibly campaign for Leave or Remain.In my opinion a LIBDEM vote is unequivocally a vote to Remain or have a People's Vote, and clearly should there be a hung Parliament he higher the number of LIBDEM MPs returned the greater the chance of a proper referendum on any renegotiated deal, instead of Long-Bailey's "referendum of sorts" (whatever that means).

Rob Anderson ● 2565d

Don't mistake that for a proper poll. This is by Flavible, aka George Rushton.It's a semi-literate one-man operation that mangles more reputable polls through some idiosyncratic formula. By his own admission, he doesn't conduct any polls himself. It's not something anyone should base their vote on.

Matthew Tiller ● 2565d

Thanks Matthew. I do agree that the MRP methodology that BestforBritain based their Putney advice on is much better. Interestingly this also has Labour in third. More info on that method here https://www.survation.com/what-is-mrp/, and more on this solid data here -https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/03/best-for-britain-tactical-voting-only-way-stop-brexit

Rob Anderson ● 2565d

You have greater faith than me.The Liberals were the first party to call for an in out referendum and part of a government that didn't prepare for it!By the way are the Liberals the only party now advocating austerity?

Ed Robinson ● 2565d

Rob, Best for Britain recommendations are even crankier. They are somehow recommending a Lib Dem vote for Remainers in Hendon, where the 2017 result was Labour 46% and Lib Dem 4%! Until some organisation polls Putney directly, the best guide is the 2017 result: Labour 40.8%, Lib Dem 11.6%.

Matthew Tiller ● 2564d

The GE of 2017 manifestoes for conservatives and labour indicated they would respect the result of the 2016 referendum.The problem is that the Withdrawal Agreement was not introduced till 2018 and we all know what has happened since.I do not think the results of the 2017 GE should be the base for speculating on the forthcoming GE because very many things have changed between both general elections.

Ivonne Holliday ● 2564d