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Paul,Good article on hypocrisy here by Nick Timothy (who seems a lot better after leaving No 10 than before...).  People delight in attacking Trump and America, yet overlook equal or worse faults in others be they in the west or elsewhere.I don’t know if you saw the Emily Maitlis interview of an American journalist on news night a couple of nights ago when Maitlis was so sneers about trumps visit and implied that he shouldn’t have been allowed.  The journalist responded by saying that he was here as a representative of the US to commemorate D day, when we errr actually were fighting Nazis.A lot rings true to me in this article over the uncritical double  standards of many on the left of politics, and that includes many posters here.I agree with many that trump has some unfortunate aspects about him, but this groupthink hysteria is saddening to see, and in the end only increases polarisation...https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/05/lefts-trendy-anti-americanism-reeks-hypocrisy/It’s behind a paywall so here are some excerpt So:-“But the fashionable dislike of America is not only stupid, it’s hypocritical. Four years ago, when Xi Jinping came on a state visit, Jeremy Corbyn ignored China’s many human rights abuses and donned white tie for the banquet. There was no insulting blimp above London, no hateful placards and no milkshakes”“Germany is often held up as America’s antithesis and a beacon of light. Read Angela Merkel’s speech at Harvard last week, in which she attacked President Trump and warned about climate change, and you can see why.But consider the facts. Since 2000, America has reduced its carbon emissions by 16 per cent. Germany’s have fallen by just 10 per cent. It is not America that relies on coal for 39 per cent of its electricity generation, but Germany. Of Europe’s top 10 carbon emitters, seven are German power stations.”“The double standards abound. While many rail against “corporate America”, there was remarkably little blowback against Volkswagen when it was found to have rigged emissions testing for its diesel cars. While some Brits fight US culture wars as if they were American themselves, they ignore the fact that Merkel personally resisted same-sex marriage in Germany. They ignore the German law that purposefully restricts advertisements and public information about abortion services.”“And while everybody speculates feverishly about Trump’s links to Russia, one politician certainly in the pay of Moscow is the former German chancellor, Gerhard Schröder. In one of his last acts in office, in September 2005, Schröder approved the construction of the Nord Stream gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. Within three months, he joined Nord Stream AG, the firm in charge of the project and a subsidiary of Gazprom, the state-owned Russian company. He also sits on the board of another state-owned Russian energy giant, rosneft”

Mike Warman ● 2715d

My father was beaten up by Oswald Mosely's Black-shirts during a rally in South London.  I see terrifying similarities here in a country where the cultural Marxism of the Frankfurt School is fully under way.The irony that one of the protesters is a woman procuring privately to the NHS is not lost on anyone outside this left-leaning forum.  Her deleted Twitter account shows her with long blonde hair hugging the left-wing actor Benedict Cumberbatch (aka Sherlock), who now resides in gated luxury near LA.The video footage clearly shows her saying to a someone who chastises her for her behaviour, "I'm not talking to another white man".  She has subsequently apologised and said she should have protested peacefully.Sadly, there are many others like her, who shout "Nazi" at anyone they disagree with.  Fascism is characterised by dictatorial behaviour and the suppression of any opposition to it.  Whatever one wishes to call it, the left-right spectrum meets in the same place - totalitarianism.  That is what the EU wants, as outlined by its founding father, Jean Monnet:"Europe's nations should be guided towards the Super-State, without their people understanding what is happening.  This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to Federation"I would also suggest reading "The Great Deception" by Christopher Booker and Richard North, first published in 2005, and updated in 2016 to coincide with the In-Out Referendum.  Please get back to me when you have finished this chilling account of what the "EU" is really all about.

Chantal Blake-Milton ● 2714d

More tosh.Paul, you really are rather boring and puerile in your diatribes, and rather disturbingly borderline racist, inquiring as to whether I'm white (does that really matter to you so much?), and pontificating about whether I'm a left winger. You really to like to cast aspersions as to what people's opinions are never mind that they never state anything other than possibly being ant-Brexit.I don't need to commemorate the war dead here. Neither does anyone else for that matter.I haven't been 'on Sue's case' for some time, besides, if I do respond negatively to her posts,  and certainly not all by any stretch, it's counter argument. She herself would say it's water of a duck back.So Sue is 'proud to be British. By inference you are trying to make me out to be some sort of traitor. How childish of you.I do not at all despise myself or my country though you plainly despise me and whatever views you imagine I have, which I'm somewhat enjoying seeing you get your knickers in a  twist about so let me clear this up. I'm right wing leaning. A life time voter for the Tories, apart from this last election, and someone who absolutely despises any far right BS from anyone. If you really did support the principles of the remembrance celebrations you'd be aware to readily of the insidious rise of fascism and the far right and it's bullying and coercion.And just so you might shut up about my ethnicity I am most definitely white, in fact extremely British indeed. I hope you can say the same given your emotional outburst.Maybe you should take a break from the forum, it's making you sound rather hysterical.

Freddie Francis ● 2714d

Paul. I think you're viewing the wor!d very black and white way. (I know this was addressed to Freddie, apologies for butting in ...) As I say to my colleagues in IT we are dealing in binary but the real world isn't black and while, it's a wide range of shades of grey - although after "50 shades" was published I changed that to say the real world is a spectrum of colours ... My father fought against the Nazis in Crete in WW2 before being captured and then spending the rest of the war as a POW where, against the Geneva convention, he was forced to work in an opencast coal mine in Silesia, but my father always made a distinction between Germans  (who he never had a hatred of) and Nazis. Extremists on both the left and right often resort to violence because of the weakened of their arguments, there should be no sup port of that at either end of the political spectrum. As a white, middle class, male I've not experienced any racist or sexist prejudice so I'm privileged in that respect but coming originlly from a working class background (I'm always grateful for the introduction of comprehensive schools and the existence of student grants in the 60-70s and the resulting social mobility) I've come across the upstairs/downstairs attitudes still around in some areas of the City: surely its obvious to any chap that one wouldn't think of organising a meeting including main board directors on 12th August? So on the one hand I an troubled by some of the historic actions by Britain: it's participation in the slave  trade, the opium wars, the treatment of Ireland, colonial exploitation, etc but on the other hand that does not mean I a not proud of what my father (and mother!) and allied people many nations of their generation achieved in fighting for freedom in the second world war, and the mechanisms set up by politicians after that black part of history: the UN, NATO, ECHR, EEC, et to maintain our freedom. Let's honour them by not letting Europe regress once again into fascism and conflict?

Michael Ixer ● 2714d