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“The saying "you reap what you sow" also comes to mind.”Indeed Ivonne.  I’m a big believer in karma in all its forms- it’s one way the universe fosters spiritual growth imo.I’d say as a part of that judge not lest thou be judged, but in the age of social media we are all critics.To Sarah above on the 350m comment, this has been distorted so much by the remain side.  It was Boris not Farage for a start, and the actual quote was that our gross contribution was 350/ week that our politicians could choose how to spend.  It was misquoted as net contribution and of course the remain side further claims the economy will collapse the moment we leave so there will be no money, as they claimed would happen in the aftermath of the vote as we tipped into recession - forgive me some scepticism here as we still wait for that “truth” to occur.All politicians twist the truth around their points, and many mainstream politicians having promised to accept the vote to leave have turned their backs on that promise.  That is the reason why Farage resonates with people outside the m25.  Try the William Hague article in today’s telegraph as he talks of meeting people here passionate to remain and people in his former constituency passionate to leave.  Just because people have the audacity to hold opposing views on sensitive subjects does not always make them cretins/ stupid/ ill informed/ lied to, and our own opinions and biases are on average likely no better or worse than those of others.  Instead maybe wonder why people in the country are genuinely fed up with globalisation, outsourcing, large scale immigration.  I think on the latter that I heard when they did a full estimate of the effects of immigration on U.K. population since Blair opened the floodgates they were around 5m extra people here (including offspring of recent immigrants etc).  Much immigration has been good for many, but people seeing their towns and villages changing out of recognition in a short space of time, seeing themselves or their children priced out of homes they could once afford, and finding no well paid jobs as competition from others has driven the rates below that necessary to raise a family are not bigots/ racists as such slurs are so easily thrown around by people who have benefitted from being in the EU.  They are concerned citizens with just as much right as people who support remain to have their views count.Farage here, Salvini in Italy and other populists around Europe only resonate with people as there is something to resonate with.I write now as someone who might not vote were there another’s referendum - I did vote leave but our political process has exhausted me, the only thing that keeps me biased that way at all at times is reading the patronising and disdainful opinions expressed in the national press of those who dare to want the U.K. to exist outside of the Eu, and of of course here also with several cheerleaders (not all) who come across to me anyway as similarly disdainful of any leave motivations, whilst gleefully swallowing and remain propaganda whole.Regarding putting people in the stocks for lying, um well every political leader out there together with most commentators could be caught by that - a juvenile remark imo again, and again consider how you would feel if these things were applied by the people you dislike towards the people you like rather than the other way around .

Mike Warman ● 2731d

I saw this gentleman interviewed, and I doubt very much that a man of 80 who spent 20 years in military service to his country would need to "fabricate" such a story, witnessed by several onlookers, who commented that his first concern was that others did not slip.  Any inconvenient story underpinning the radical remain faction's thorough nastiness, is dismissed.  What do facts matter to those convinced of their own moral supremacy?What is not in doubt that a Charity worker for wellness organisation Happy City (not as I wrongly first stated a Labour Councillor) the utterly hideous Ruth Townsley who goes by the Twitter name @vintagecyclist made the following incitement:"Bravo Paul Crowther, good on you mate.  Great thing that milkshakes have become a thing when it comes to racists in our midst.  I'd prefer acid but milkshakes will do for now I guess"Ms Townsley has now resigned, and I agree with the commenters on Guido Fawkes that this woman typifies the dangerous mentality of some women of a certain age who hurl abuse, and imaginary acid at anyone they disagree with.  People have been jailed for less inflammatory comments on Twitter, so when will she be arrested for incitement?  It is not those who won the referendum that have divided the nation, but a minority of radical remainers who see bigotry, hate, sexism, racism and antisemitism everywhere, backed by remainer MP's desperate to save their seats.  When not shrieking "bigot" they misuse the word "populist" because they are always right (well not that kind of Right obviously, 'cos that's Fascist) and who cares anyway, there's no Planet B.They dismiss a majority of a million voters, but accept a vote blocking the No Deal passed by one vote by a Labour MP who has been sacked by her constituents, because she was convicted of criminal charges.OED - hideous - extremely ugly                            extremely unpleasant           populism - a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who                               feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite                               groups

Chantal Blake-Milton ● 2728d

Interesting brief essay on the Jo Brand business by Jonathan Pie creator Tom Walker:-"Jo Brand has been criticised for joking about throwing battery acid on politicians, rather than milkshakes. The police say they are assessing a complaint about it. She has said the role of freedom of speech is "extremely important". Comedian Tom Walker, known for his satirical news reporter character Jonathan Pie explains why Brand's comments cannot be taken too seriously. I find it extraordinary that in this day and age we are still debating this. There are two things you need to look at: context and intent.Listening to the clip of Jo Brand's joke, the context is there - clear as day. You can hear people laughing at it. It is a comedian telling a joke on a comedy programme. It is clearly a joke within that context.Now, intent. Do we honestly think that Jo Brand wants us to throw acid on politicians' faces? If you actually believe that then you are wilfully, in my opinion, misunderstanding what a joke is. The intent there was to have a laugh.Comedian George Carlin once said it is the comedian's job to find where the line where you shouldn't cross is - and then gently step over it.We are heading into a puritanical age where most comedians feel they have to stay a couple of metres behind that line. Comedy is about hyperbole, irony, even shock sometimes.It's a dangerous precedent when the prime minister is getting involved, having a pop at the BBC for telling jokes on a comedy programme. I find it absolutely bizarre.It clearly wasn't an incitement of hatred.I wonder whether Nigel Farage, who called on the police to act following her comments, is trolling us a little bit and having a go at the snowflake left.It's quite often the left going 'we need to watch ourselves with our language', more than the right.If the police want to investigate it, all they have to do is listen to the joke in its original context. That should tell them all they need to know. Being offended doesn't mean a crime has been committed, Wilfully misinterpreting a joke also does not mean a crime has been committed.To be clear: It would not be funny if someone threw battery acid because that causes physical harm. It is not the same as telling a joke.If a person throws battery acid on someone's face after hearing that joke, that person has clear mental health problems and is unable to understand the context and intent of a joke.Jo Brand would not be culpable at all. That person would be the criminal and they would be responsible.I'm a big believer in free speech generally, and certainly in this context. It was clearly a joke. If you didn't like it, switch off and don't watch Jo Brand again.It's as simple as that."https://news.sky.com/story/jo-brand-outrage-shows-were-heading-into-a-puritanical-age-says-jonathan-pie-creator-tom-walker-11741234From The Telegraph":-"On the programme, Brand referred to recent milkshake attacks on political candidates, including Nigel Farage.She said: “Certain unpleasant characters are being thrown to the fore and they’re very, very easy to hate and I’m kind of thinking, why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?“That’s just me. I’m not going to do it. It’s purely a fantasy. But I think milkshakes are pathetic, I honestly do, sorry.”"

David Ainsworth ● 2708d