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The leave campaign lied.  People believed those lies, in good faith (https://brexitlies.com/)The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want (Michael Gove said it, 9th April 2016)It's irresponsible to scare EU nationals in the UK by hinting that their status might change after Brexit.  No one's suggesting such a thing (Daniel Hannan tweeted, 2nd March 2016)Taking back control is a careful change, not a sudden step - we will negotiate the terms of a new deal before we start any legal process to leave (Vote Leave website, 13th April 2016)These are from the Led By Donkeys group on FB and twitter.I'm not sure that Honda etc workers voted leave thinking for one minute that they would be out of a job.  Or curry house bosses promoting Leave as they thought it would be good for their business, when actually it's now having negative consequences (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/brexit-lies-curry-vote-leave-restaurant-industry).  It will take decades of negotiations to get new trade deals, when we're already a full member of the largest trade bloc on the planet.  In the meantime, government will stay paralysed, with no time to work on the things that really matter such as health, education, welfare, policing etc.  And our governments policies will continue to make us poorer (https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/sold-from-under-you-investigation_uk_5c7bee0fe4b0e5e313cb9eac)So yes, I do think the ramifications of leaving the EU would last for decades.  Which is why, as Nigel Farage said on 16th May 2016 'In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way.'

Clare Noeken ● 2800d

Thank you for your post, Mrs Shillabeer, I shall try to answer your points in turn."1) I hate people and countries who have no idea of my way of life or what affects me, having more control over the way I live than myself, obviously I can't go int detail here, but traffic regulations for example." This is a bit of a mystery. Leaving aside the notion about "people and countries who have no idea of my way of life or what affects me" ("faraway people of whom we know nothing," anyone?), what traffic regulations, exactly, do the EU control? I think you will have to go into some detail if this is to begin to be a credible argument. How, for example, do such countries have more control over your way of life than you do? Do you pine for the abolition of the Working Hours Directive, or the requirement of employers to provide proper paid leave? Or maybe you'd prefer your beach hut (see below) to nestle above a stinking, polluted beach..."2) I hate the idea that the EU takes precedence over our own laws."In short, it doesn't: we agree common laws jointly with the EU, in fact "Britain had far greater influence in Brussels since 1973 than has been recognised. For decades the UK was a driving and liberalising force when it came to the Single Market, enlargement, competition and trade, as well as foreign policy." (https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018/07/09/british-influence-in-brussels-had-been-far-greater-than-recognised/). And a more balanced estimate of the influence of the EU on UK law can be found here: https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/, which suggests that EU influence is greatly overestimated. "3)  I hate the way our fishing industry was decimated. "So do I, but I think you'll find that it was the UK fishing industry to that has decimated our fishing industry by overfishing - cod, for example. (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/06/ukip-british-fishing-westminster-brussels-brexit)"4) i hate how EU law stops some of our clean air re schools from improvement."This really is bizarre and the reverse of the truth: the EU has set the air quality standards that the UK has continually flouted - for example, ClientEarth has taken the government to court no fewer than three times over its failure to act on atmospheric pollution, and defeated it each time.  And still Westminster drags its feet (https://www.clientearth.org/)."on a more personal level.  I used to own a beach hut.  Much to my surprise 'rates' were paid to the EU."Eh? Can you enlarge on this? As it stands, it doesn't make a lot of sense.I look forward to reading your response.

Richard Carter ● 2797d