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Mail online

Have a problem with technology.Don't understand it.  I read Mail online for quick fast up to date news. If I read the app on my phone it is different, as it is different again on my IPad. Had no idea that if you paid for it it was different yet again. My son who is an IT engineer reckons that different systems 'read' info differently for different devices. I'm totally baffled.  I read with great pleasure, and a cup of coffee The Daily Mail, which is again different to Online. I do read other papers as well.  Not The Guardian, even when I'm exhorted to do so! If that characterises me as 'the mob' so be it.

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2846d60 Comments

Barbara, I had no idea either, that there were different versions of the Mail Online.What is “the mob”?  I am part of it, evidently.

Martine Guy ● 2846d

Peter Hitchens in the Mail today:-"What if David Cameron had never been Prime Minister?: How one childish, vain slippery politician is to blame for this whole sorry Brexit mess""Mr Tusk says Mr Cameron confessed to him he only called the EU referendum because he thought it would never happen.""If Mr Brown had won in 2010, I suspect the country would be in better shape by far than it is now, while Jeremy Corbyn would still be quietly growing marrows in his North London allotment, a forgotten fringe figure."https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6635891/PETER-HITCHENS-David-Cameron-never-Prime-Minister.html

David Ainsworth ● 2845d

I believe that the Mail Online (which I have on my tablet) is mainly for advertising, you may have noticed quite a lot of articles on somebody who had written a book, etc.  They also recycle many old articles and load them with pop up adverts.It can be quite entertaining, but not to be believed. But then any reading of any version of the Mail has to be taken with a very large pinch of salt.

Bunny Payne ● 2844d

Agreed, they do usually put on their usual contributors, Peter Hitchins, Belle Mooney, etc

Bunny Payne ● 2844d

Bunny, Out of interest, what is on there today, that isn’t to be believed in the news section?  I generally look just at the front page and click on what I want to read further.  Yes I know adverts are disguised as articles and I think from the comments, people are getting fed up with cleaning tips and house staging hints from Australia.  Excluding the celebrity news, is there any lie in the news section of the front page?

Martine Guy ● 2844d

it's mainly what they leave out, not at all a balanced view of many subjects.  Also some of the articles are really old and recycled and most just repeat themselves over and over again.  Not really cutting edge journalism.  My theory is they put all the newbies on this.

Bunny Payne ● 2843d

I think there must be different versions of Mail Online, as I like to read it because it seems to be lots of current news and breaking news.  What I do is go into Google, and type Mail Online.  As with PutneySW15 website, it comes up automatically because I look at the websites regularly. 

Martine Guy ● 2843d

Well, whatever you say about Mail Online they report news PDQ..  The vote had hardly been declared tonight when Macron was saying'non'

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2843d

ALL member states of the EU say no renegotiation Barbara. Ireland is one of them.

Lucille Grant ● 2843d

It's not just the obvious political imbalance of the MailOnline (and its Daily Mail parent), but its almost pornographic slavering over women's bodies that's so objectionable. This is so not just in the 'Sidebar of Shame' (today, for example, it has this: "Vanessa Bauer … posts stunning bikini snaps," "Nina Agdal poses naked against ocean backdrop in saucy snap…" "Imogen Thomas goes hiking in a scant bikini," Kimberley Garner flaunts her sizzling physique in a skimpy thong-style bikini," "Toni Vraxton, 51, puts on a VERY racy display in a glittering thigh-high split dress for energetic performance" and on and on and on) but in the way the main stories manage to squeeze in so many bikini pics. For example, Sarah Vain's column today purports to be about "The hellish cost of joining Club 18-40" but is actually just an excuse to post no fewer than 10 photographs of women in their 40s wearing swimsuits..

Richard Carter ● 2842d

so much detail Richard seems you are enjoying.  and as you say so many times on here if you don't like it don't read it. seems you protest too much

Andy Pike ● 2842d

Ha ha: I didn't actually read the stuff (that would soon rot the brain) but just giving examples to make the point. As I also have said many times, if you are making an argument it's best to provide evidence for the argument to be credible.

Richard Carter ● 2842d

Andy, that must be one of the funniest posts ever made on this Forum, LOL.

Martine Guy ● 2842d

Yes Richard, the Mail Online has even managed to bring women’s bodies into a report on the cold weather in the USA:  “The polar vortexxx: weather forecast map tracking arctic blast that’s crippling America’s Midwest looks uncannily like a pair of breasts”Anyway I will return to looking at Andy Murray’s “twig and giggle berries”.

Martine Guy ● 2842d

@Andy 10.56"so much detail Richard seems you are enjoying."LOL!! Presumably viewed on a tablet leaving one hand free...

Sue Hammond ● 2842d

Sue, LOL!I can’t stop laughing.

Martine Guy ● 2842d

Welcome back Sue. I see you're on form :-) hope that means you not feeling too bad at the moment?

Michael Ixer ● 2842d

Thankyou Michael for your good wishes. xx

Sue Hammond ● 2842d

Sue.  Really lovely to see you posting again.  Great to have a laugh.  Why have so many men on this forum ( a few exceptions) had a humour bypass?.

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2842d

Because some of them take themselves far too seriously Barbara. 🙄Thankyou for your nice comments. xx

Sue Hammond ● 2842d

Richard.  You would find today's Daily Mail very enlightening today. p.56. Over 2 pages, women of varying skin colour displaying nude undies to tone with natural colouring. 10 different women! No discrimination there!Was it a Freudian slip on your part in your post, or an attempt at humour? The lady to whom you referred is Sarah Vine not Vain

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2841d

Could you explain that remark Sue? i don't understand what you mean.

Lucille Grant ● 2841d

I thought Richard was unusually quiet today, no endless Guardian links 🙄 and now I know why Barbara.  So much bare skin, bums and cleavage in the Mail online today to salivate over! 💪

Sue Hammond ● 2841d

Please  could you explain your response to Andy @10.56 Sue? I don't understand what you mean.

Lucille Grant ● 2841d

@Lucille 12.59"Could you explain that remark Sue? i don't understand what you mean."Seems pretty self-explanatory to me. Can you explain what you don't understand about it please?

Sue Hammond ● 2841d

Don’t set me off laughing again.  ‘Sidebar of Shame’, ha, ha, ha.All that middle class porn,LOL.

Martine Guy ● 2841d

Lucille, I thought she meant leaving one hand free to turn over the pages of the Guardian.

Martine Guy ● 2841d

'Presumably viewed on a tablet leaving one hand free..'I don't understand what leaving one hand free while viewing a tablet means.

Lucille Grant ● 2841d

Oh yes, that makes sense. Thanks Martine. All clear now.

Lucille Grant ● 2841d

'Sidebar of Shame' 🙀 Legend!! 😹

Sue Hammond ● 2841d

@Lucille 13.07"I don't understand what leaving one hand free while viewing a tablet means."It means you only need one hand to hold and use a tablet.🙄 What else would it mean Lucille?

Sue Hammond ● 2841d

Martine has explained.

Lucille Grant ● 2841d

Bit of a local interest story on Mail Online, well Wimbledon Village, which is local as far as I am concerned.Not sure if this is Celebrity Porn, Middle Class Porn or Property Porn, take your pick, but Simon Cowell, he of the bronzed torso, is buying a £15 million house in Wimbledon Village, so his son Eric can go to a local school, which I am guessing is Kings.  No doubt we will see his squeeze, the luscious Lauren about the Village.

Martine Guy ● 2840d

"Not sure if this is Celebrity Porn, Middle Class Porn or Property Porn, take your pick"Well, the one thing that we know is that none of it is sexy porn, under the Trade Descriptions Act.

David Ainsworth ● 2840d

Well there’s always the Sidebar of Shame.

Martine Guy ● 2840d

https://www.google.com/amp/s/babe.net/2017/04/18/literally-just-list-pointless-daily-mail-sidebar-shame-headlines-405/amp

Richard Carter ● 2840d

Richard, I can’t do links from this device, but I think you gave us all enough details, even counting the photos.Isn’t that great news about Simon Cowell?

Martine Guy ● 2840d

@RC 11.43Don't keep banging 😉 on about porn. Just carry on enjoying it.😛

Sue Hammond ● 2840d

"Don't keep banging on about porn. Just carry on enjoying it."This must be a strange new definition of enjoyment.The Daily Mail - the greatest anaphrodisiac since bromide.

David Ainsworth ● 2840d

Well David, some people find their pleasures in the weirdest ways. I've read about them. 🤓

Sue Hammond ● 2840d

Surely David, that is the point.  I read the Mail Online (sorry, not sorry), but I don’t consider it Middle Class Porn, I would be happy to let my children read the website.  The stories I would be unhappy about them reading, because it is the stuff of nightmares, is the one yesterday about the baby in Russia, killed by its grandparents and I won’t go into the details as it is too distressing.

Martine Guy ● 2840d

I agree that was particularly harrowing Martine. 😧 I have to say though that the x-ray image of Andy Murray's todger made me feel a bit queasy, especially when I had to zoom in several times to see it. 😳

Sue Hammond ● 2840d

Don’t you get it, David, we are having a laugh that anyone considers the Daily Mail/Mail Online porn?

Martine Guy ● 2840d

Just to add some fuel to the fire, a satirical view of the Mail by the Mash 😶:http://www.putneysw15.com/default.asp?section=community&app=forum/default.asp

Michael Ixer ● 2840d

Sorry but I can’t get this link to work.  I am sure it’s funny as it’s the Daily Mash.

Martine Guy ● 2840d

googling the Daily Mash on the Daily Mail, I got “Nice Older Couple Inexplicably Read the Daily Mail” and “ Daily Mail Ordered to Pay Damages to Anyone who has Ever Read it”.

Martine Guy ● 2840d

@Michael 13.32Your link didn't work for me either, I got a server error message.http://www.putneysw15.com/default.asp?section=comm

Sue Hammond ● 2840d

Thought I’d look up the Daily Mash on the Guardian:  “The Guardian Reader’s Guide to Making Sure your Child Doesn’t Fit in at School” , ie give them a load of pretentious food in their lunchbox and “Is Your Sex Problem Middle Class Enough for the Guardian” .

Martine Guy ● 2840d

Rather a lot of point-missing going on here. It's not the MailOnline itself that's pornographic (after all, who would regard pictures of that bladder of lard Boris Johnson - or, indeed, that other bladder of lard Trump - as porn, though who can account for taste, particularly on this forum?) but the drooling, lip-licking, slavering descriptions of women's bodies that the Sidebar of Shame is so infamous for.

Richard Carter ● 2840d

The Sidebar of Shame and stuff like that is pure clickbait - i.e. images you are enticed to click on and thus generate a tiny amount of income for the site owner.  Those tiny amounts add up when millions do the clicking.

Jonathan Callaway ● 2840d

Sorry, must have copied link from wrong tab!Try this?https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/media/daily-mail-readers-getting-dangerously-close-to-witch-burning-20190201182053

Michael Ixer ● 2840d

Michael, yes I’ve found it.  It’s about The Mail’s outmoded views on women and how they could be witches, Look out Sue, if you’ve got a cat, then it’s a dead cert.The Daily Mash is fun - it seems to take the mickey out of all the papers.  I will have to remind myself to look at it.

Martine Guy ● 2840d

Yes, the Mash takes no hostages. Interesting that even Guardian readers have taken the piss out of it for years by calling it the Grauniad because of its atrocious proof reading 🙂

Michael Ixer ● 2840d

If I’m not mistaken I think the Grauniad joke started in Private Eye.  I used to buy it now and again, as it used to make me laugh, but if I buy it now I never find the time to read it, unfortunately.  Grim Up North London was my favourite bit, about pretentious Islington types, which brings us back to The Guardian.

Martine Guy ● 2840d

Martine, yes, now you've jogged my memory it was Private Eye that started it. I sometimes get time to skim cartoons in it but not to read articles ...

Michael Ixer ● 2840d

The Onion performs a similar role in the US: the latest post has as its main story "John Bolton Insists Iran Likely Harboring Dangerous Terrorist Osama Bin Laden."

Richard Carter ● 2840d

@RC"the drooling, lip-licking, slavering descriptions of women's bodies that the Sidebar of Shame is so infamous for."Well it certainly seems to keep you interested Richard!

Sue Hammond ● 2840d

LOL Sue

Martine Guy ● 2840d

There's always a lot of Mail bashing, but I was impressed with the Mail's recent campaign (Just been reading up on it) recruiting thousands to volunteer at local hospitals. Seems to be working very well. They're also doing one currently on picking up rubbish and plastic waste which seems to be gathering apace. A friend in the country said that people in the village signed up and have already collected a ton of rubbish. The campaign just encouraged them all to get a move on and do it.

Victoria Diamond ● 2840d

Martine and Sue: I think you have milked the humour on this one as far as it will go now. It's getting a bit boring.

Caroline Whitehead ● 2840d