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PUTNEY EXCHANGE ROOFTOP PROPOSAL BACK AGAIN UNDER A NEW NAME: ‘THE PALMHOUSE’

Yet again, the developers have failed to notify most local residents of the proposal or consultation. There are two consultation sessions being held in Putney Exchange this week (located near Superdrug – Ground Floor) to allow local residents to view the proposed project and discuss the proposals: Wednesday 14th November; 6:00 pm until 8:00 pmSaturday 17th November; midday until 3:00 pmPlease go and view the plans and decide for yourself if this will be of benefit to your family and the local community. Is this really new foodie concept or a cynical attempt to reintroduce the same late-night rooftop bar/club concept under a fancy new name with the same associated problems of late night noise, drinking & anti-social behaviour, increased difficulties in parking etc.?

Anna Ramsay ● 2920d20 Comments

There are already at least two threads on here about this.

Freddie Francis ● 2920d

So?

Sue Hammond ● 2920d

'So' ...better to keep the discussion in one place. It's a pretty basic idea. Or is that too simplistic for you, Sue?

Freddie Francis ● 2920d

How can anything be too simplistic?

Sue Hammond ● 2920d

See the picture and description on the main pages here. Or go to the following link: https://putneyexchange.co.uk/visit-us/the-palmhouse/.It seems to me that without knowing the opening hours it is difficult to make a judgement on the suitability, either for or against. Hopefully Sandi, the Editor of PutneySW15 will get an answer to these questions. It would also be useful to have some plans showing the amount of space taken up by the Palmhouse and how many parking spaces will be lost. One final comment is that the two lifts by Waitrose are small and pretty unreliable. Will they need to be upgraded?Nick

Nicholas Evans ● 2920d

There are lots of issues that need clarification Nick and I remember the same potential problems being discussed earlier this year in a very long thread in April. The planning application was equally opaque in detail and nobody living in close vicinity to the Exchange was given notification of the application then either. It seems that both applications were made covertly in the hope that the proposed project would be unchallenged.

Sue Hammond ● 2920d

Isn't the key issue here how late into the evening they'll be open which will relate to unwanted noise for local residents.In which case isn't that an issue for the licencing authorities and not planning permission ?Unfortunately I'm not around at the times tomorrow or on Sat but I'd be very interested to hear what comes of this...

Mark Derry ● 2920d

We have been advised that the proposed hours of operation woudl be  Wednesday to Sunday – with all licensable activities finishing at 11pm (10.30pm Sundays) see updated version on front page

PutneySW15 Editor ● 2920d

I suspect it's just another Pergola On the Roof dressed up as something more genteel i.e. a palm house. If they just want to mitigate the pollution on the high street, as their press release states,  instead of adding to it with eateries, bars, traffic, deliveries etc why not just plant a roof garden?

Susan Seth ● 2919d

Quite right Susan!Will try to go along this evening .  I suspect we will need to go into battle once again.  With the overwhelming concerns and objections raised last time I am disturbed that they are not leaving the concept but rather rebadging it!

Mike Warman ● 2919d

If it's enclosed naturally the noise level will be greatly reduced. Personally anything that adds to putney is a good thing especially with increasing the popularity of the high street.

Gabrielle O'Mahoney ● 2919d

I'm not a noise expert, but I'm not sure how effective plastic covering would be in eliminating noise. But wouldn't this in any case be counter productive since the main selling point in the press releases states the plants would mitigate the pollution on the high street.?How does this work if the plants are covered over? also how will they mitigate the additional pollution generated by air con, food extractors, floodlighting, extra cars, delivery vans and lorries and no doubt a lot of other single use plastic?

Susan Seth ● 2919d

Susan, are you saying the Palmhouse is made of plastic and not glass?

Martine Guy ● 2919d

I wonder what the arrangements will be to exit and enter the facility. The Exchange usually locks  its doors at 6pm and the escalator is then turned off. Assuming the opening hours will be extended to midnight (to allow for stragglers) the change of use will effect much more than one floor . The only way up will be if the doors are kept open and then the lifts are used. That opens the whole facility to potential break-in and damage. The lighting will have to remain on, another environmental negative. The cost of extending the hours of the security staff will not be insignificant. Or maybe they intend to only allow access by car? Again, the staff and security costs will mount up. Have they costed all this, and asked their shop tenants what they think?Nick

Nicholas Evans ● 2919d

Does anyone know the planning application number please..I am on their doorstep and haven't received a notification

Penelope Becker ● 2919d

The display in the Exchange is a pre-application presentation. The actual planning application is expected next month.

Caroline Whitehead ● 2919d

having just attended a meeting in the Putney Exchange with local residents and personnel from Incipio, I can confirm not one of them could explain how the project, which is being marketed on the basis it will "contribute to the mitigation of the high degree of air pollution in and around Putney", would actually achieve that. Bearing in mind it would generate its own levels of pollution of various types and considering the trees and planting will be under  a 'lightweight structure" how is it possible the project can mitigate pollution. The director confirmed he is hoping for around 3000 visitors a week with a seating capacity of 580 at any one time, and tried to convince us none of them will arrive or leave by car! The next meeting is by Superdrug in Putney Exchange on Saturday 17th at midday.

Susan Seth ● 2919d

so it seems Royal Horticultural Society has withdrawn its endorsement of the Incipio proposal, and asked not to have its name associated with it !

Susan Bloomfield ● 2871d

I know there are a couple of threads on this already, but does any one know if the new planning application has been submitted yet?

Susan Bloomfield ● 2863d

INCIPIO GROUP HAVAE NOW RESORTED TO A FACEBOOK CAMPAIGN which includes a link to the planning portal, urging their fb followers to support their planning application. The portal now has supporters as far away as Kent! Obviously trying to undermine the local objectors but also makes a mockery of the entire process!

Susan Bloomfield ● 2840d